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Re: hmm ok then, this is so wrong.

Postby Jeremoot » Mon Oct 31, 2011 12:22 pm

500% threat, getting a massive threat lead was never difficult in the first place, now an infant could do it.

This is normal. As others have said, however, you should stay and help kill the boss while moving out of things, etc.
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Re: hmm ok then, this is so wrong.

Postby Koatanga » Mon Oct 31, 2011 12:34 pm

The reason for the treat change was that there were geared raiders queuing for random heroics, in order to farm chaos orbs, who would be grouped entry-level tanks who had no hope of maintaining aggro. It has nothing to do with holding threat against similarly geared people.

And yeah I am right there with most on this: You just don't go AFK while tanking. There is more to life than holding aggro.
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Re: hmm ok then, this is so wrong.

Postby bldavis » Mon Oct 31, 2011 12:37 pm

in 5mans, i see how far up the dps meter i can go
for example in stonecore, i am normally top on the cultist packs before the final boss
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Re: hmm ok then, this is so wrong.

Postby BlackNet » Mon Oct 31, 2011 1:39 pm

So everyone here is advocating tanks having hit/expertise caps then? Is that what I am reading?
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Re: hmm ok then, this is so wrong.

Postby Sabindeus » Mon Oct 31, 2011 1:44 pm

BlackNet wrote:So everyone here is advocating tanks having hit/expertise caps then? Is that what I am reading?


This feels like familiar territory.

Caring about DPS in general is not the same as gearing for DPS at the expense of survivability
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Re: hmm ok then, this is so wrong.

Postby lythac » Mon Oct 31, 2011 1:47 pm

BlackNet wrote:So everyone here is advocating tanks having hit/expertise caps then? Is that what I am reading?


I am reading that we should always look to complete our rotation at 100% optimisation, as DPS is rarely wasted and contibutes to getting bosses down faster. Taking DPS stats at the expense of survivability stats should only be done when the risk of dying is trivial, so 5 mans (or when you are doing tier 11 normal raiding content and wearing 378+, your mileage may vary).
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Re: hmm ok then, this is so wrong.

Postby bldavis » Mon Oct 31, 2011 1:51 pm

im not sure about pallies but warriors and bears dont use hit/expir
survivability is more important then an extra 300dps

that is what our main point is if you are afk, you arent using cds to help survive and ease the stress on your healers
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Flex:I don't make mistakes. I execute carefully planned strategic group wipes.
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Re: hmm ok then, this is so wrong.

Postby Worldie » Mon Oct 31, 2011 1:57 pm

BlackNet wrote:So everyone here is advocating tanks having hit/expertise caps then? Is that what I am reading?

No, we are advocating about *Do the best DPS your gear allows", not about "Gear for DPS".

It's different ;)
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Re: hmm ok then, this is so wrong.

Postby Era » Mon Oct 31, 2011 2:35 pm

I can steer a car with my knees.

Doesn't mean I should.
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Re: hmm ok then, this is so wrong.

Postby Koatanga » Mon Oct 31, 2011 2:45 pm

BlackNet wrote:So everyone here is advocating tanks having hit/expertise caps then? Is that what I am reading?

I think we're advocating actually playing the game rather than going AFK.
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Re: hmm ok then, this is so wrong.

Postby Teranoid » Mon Oct 31, 2011 4:03 pm

BlackNet wrote:Perhaps next time I will go take a shower, do laundry, run around the block, or find something else to do during a boss fight.


Or you could yknow.. tank something that matters and then realize how ridiculous your post and general line of thinking is.
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Re: hmm ok then, this is so wrong.

Postby Sabindeus » Mon Oct 31, 2011 4:11 pm

I think that everything that needs to be said on this topic has been said already. Not to mention that this topic has been discussed to death on these boards already.
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