Firelands Progression path

[illinivb7]

http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/1830 ... 2-hotfixes

They updated it after the original posting, it specifically says it now.

[Nikachelle]

Aha.

[fuzzygeek]

Welp, even less reason to waste our time

[Malthrax]

Firelands Progression Path

1. Find a guild that's actually [capable of|interested in] raiding Firelands
2. ...
3. Profit!


I've been in *ONE* Firelands raid so far... that wiped 4 times on the first two trash packs, then disbanded an hour later.

I think I need to find a new server.

[Belloc]

My opinion on 10-man Heroic progression path:

Shannox
Rhyolith
Baleroc \ these are interchangeable. Baleroc is a DPS race, Alys is a survival check
Alysrazor /
Staghelm
Beth'tilac
Ragnaros

[Sundance]

My opinion on 10-man Heroic progression path:

Shannox
Rhyolith
Baleroc \ these are interchangeable. Baleroc is a DPS race, Alys is a survival check
Alysrazor /
Staghelm
Beth'tilac
Ragnaros

I´d rather go:
Shannox <-- Easier than normal mode
Staghelm(Use Kitty tactic)
Alysrazor
Rhyolith <-- Can be annoying with rng
Baleroc <-- Harder than Beth'tilac without people that can soak a full crystal
Beth'tilac
Ragnaros

This is if you aim to kill one heroic boss per week or less. If you don´t then you don´t need this thread anyway...

[frontallobe]

Bump as the heroic list has been edited.

[Adornus]

10m HM progression:

1. Shannox
2. Alysrazor
3. Rhyolith
4. Domo
5. Beth'tilac
6. Baleroc
7. Ragnaros

[Cema]

New progression path looks more like

HEROIC MODE 10 & 25 man)
1. Shannox - loot
2. Ryolith - loot
3. Majordomo Staghelm - loot
4. Baleroc - loot
5. Alysrazor - loot
6. Beth'tilac - loot
7. Ragnaros - wall of brick cause no one knows how to play anymore since everything is so easy - wait for the next roflstomp nerf


(admit a bit of trolling here but not so much .. sadly)

[Belloc]

Keep in mind that, easy as this stuff is now, it's still not a "joke." If you haven't killed heroic Rhyolith yet, you're probably still going to wipe and come here complaining about driving. Baleroc will still kill people that don't know how to rotate the shards. Beth'tilac will still wipe groups that don't know how to appropriate DPS and handle adds.

These nerfs made it easier, yes, but you still need to know, fundamentally, how to do the fights before you can kill them. They're not free loot for players that haven't killed them yet. Except maybe Alysrazor -- holy shit, that fight is a joke now

[Adornus]

So we ran the nerfed set last night. Wow. Just wow. We wouldn't have dreamed 2 healing H Beth before - it was laughable this time. The only issue with it was range issues for our resto druid down below. We both had 50%+ mana with Beth at 10%, we had to just throw out random heals to use mana. Beth came down at 55%. We didn't even hit 20 stacks. Sigh.

"I guess I can tranq, just to do it." -R Druid with Beth at 5%

And H Alysrazor, didn't even make it through a full cycle because we had 3 fliers. Killed her 4 seconds into P4.

[Malthrax]

And H Alysrazor, didn't even make it through a full cycle because we had 3 fliers. Killed her 4 seconds into P4.

[RedAces]

Majordomo 10H with 1 Healer - so lol :X
EDIT: @Bethilac: the 10H hotfix is definitly live on EU-Aman'Thul, she was at 55% HP as she descended... we never got her below 65 preNerf. And we nearly fell asleep in P1 without anything to do... gonna send 3 DPS up next time.

[frontallobe]

And H Alysrazor, didn't even make it through a full cycle because we had 3 fliers. Killed her 4 seconds into P4.

This sounds interesting and fun. Couple questions. Do you have logs for that kill (I want to see if our dps is even near yours to attempt) Also how did you kill meteors and adds in time downstairs. Just unbelievable dps and lots of ranged?

[maurok]

(...)Except maybe Alysrazor -- holy shit, that fight is a joke now

I feel bad =[

my group raid about 5~6hrs a week, we did 2/7H pre-nerf, we killed beth H last thursday and we just 1-shotted baleroc H yesteday... bu we can't get past the 1st phase on alys H =[