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Re: Attn: Smokers in the US

Postby Lightbeard » Thu Jun 23, 2011 10:31 pm

After 4 pages this discussion seems to be

Smokers: Smoking doesn't cause cancer, it's all propaganda.

Non-smokers: Smoking contributes to cancer.
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Re: Attn: Smokers in the US

Postby Fivelives » Thu Jun 23, 2011 11:38 pm

I don't think anyone's saying that smoking is good for you, or that they don't contribute to the risk of getting cancer.

What I, personally, am saying is that they aren't as bad as they're made out to be. They're bad, but they aren't as bad as the propaganda would have you believe.
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Re: Attn: Smokers in the US

Postby Snake-Aes » Fri Jun 24, 2011 4:49 am

They are pretty much made of bad stuff in a dozen possible senses, complete with things that are right-out stated to be poisons. Kinda like coke-cola. Except it spreads.
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Re: Attn: Smokers in the US

Postby Shyrtandros » Fri Jun 24, 2011 6:16 am

I vote to lock the thread...

Not a fan of watching friends attack friends over personal habits that are more likely to not be altered, everyone of us has been in or seen this debate countless times..

It looks like this horse is dead and deserves no further beatings.. besides some of you are starting to weeze. :lol:
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Re: Attn: Smokers in the US

Postby Aubade » Fri Jun 24, 2011 9:42 am

My overall point is.

I like smoking, and I know it's bad for me.

And babies can go screw themselves, pregnant women too.
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Re: Attn: Smokers in the US

Postby Skye1013 » Fri Jun 24, 2011 3:48 pm

Aubade wrote:And babies can go screw themselves, pregnant women too.

I knew you were an asshole, but seriously?
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Re: Attn: Smokers in the US

Postby Arnock » Fri Jun 24, 2011 3:50 pm

Something tells me that that was said with his tongue firmly planted in his cheek.
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Re: Attn: Smokers in the US

Postby Aubade » Fri Jun 24, 2011 6:02 pm

Arnock wrote:Something tells me that that was said with his tongue firmly planted in his cheek.



No, I seriously hate babies.

Babies = Annoying little snotbags.

I have no plans of ever having them, I hate kids. Until they're around 4-5, Keep them away from me. After 4-5 I find them amusing, so it's okay.

Pregnant women are crazy, and anyone who says otherwise is lying out of their ass.

This being said, I don't wish to harm them, I just don't like them.
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Re: Attn: Smokers in the US

Postby Nikachelle » Fri Jun 24, 2011 6:49 pm

Aubade's soooo going to end up with five or six little brats of his own.
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Re: Attn: Smokers in the US

Postby Punkss2 » Sat Jun 25, 2011 1:26 am

I have a prego wife at home. I have a 2 year old son at home. Is my wife irrational? Hell yes. Is my son a little spoiled brat? Hell yes.

Do I regret getting married and having kids? HELL NO.

You really can't speak of what you don't know. But, that's my 2 cents.
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Re: Attn: Smokers in the US

Postby Aubade » Sat Jun 25, 2011 1:33 am

Punkss2 wrote:I have a prego wife at home. I have a 2 year old son at home. Is my wife irrational? Hell yes. Is my son a little spoiled brat? Hell yes.

Do I regret getting married and having kids? HELL NO.

You really can't speak of what you don't know. But, that's my 2 cents.


Oh, don't get me confused.

I have no issues with pregnant women, or babies.

I just never plan on having kids.
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Re: Attn: Smokers in the US

Postby Melathys » Sat Jun 25, 2011 10:25 pm

any person who has ever breathed oxygen has died or will die, ergo, breathing is 100% fatal....
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Re: Attn: Smokers in the US

Postby Fridmarr » Sun Jun 26, 2011 11:54 am

Melathys wrote:any person who has ever breathed oxygen has died or will die, ergo, breathing is 100% fatal....

Yes, but so is not breathing so there is not an alternative. One can choose not to smoke however.

I have no problem with folks smoking, but if you admit that smoking increases your odds of dying by cancer, you can't really complain about the vernacular stance of smoking causing cancer. You don't need to prove it at an individual level, if you admit it increases the odds, then you are also admitting that someone got cancer and wouldn't have if they did not smoke. Thus, the vernacular is pretty reasonable.
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Re: Attn: Smokers in the US

Postby Arnock » Sun Jun 26, 2011 12:30 pm

Melathys wrote:any person who has ever breathed oxygen has died or will die, ergo, breathing is 100% fatal....



Average time to die when breathing: ~75 years
Average time to die when not breathing: ~6 minutes


I'll take my chances.

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Re: Attn: Smokers in the US

Postby Barathorn » Sun Jun 26, 2011 11:58 pm

Fridmarr wrote: I have no problem with folks smoking, but if you admit that smoking increases your odds of dying by cancer, you can't really complain about the vernacular stance of smoking causing cancer. You don't need to prove it at an individual level, if you admit it increases the odds, then you are also admitting that someone got cancer and wouldn't have if they did not smoke. Thus, the vernacular is pretty reasonable.


It seems reasonable to the uninformed I agree. To anyone who actually reads about the subject then no that isn't a reasonable stance to take on it.

Smoking is bad for you. No-one disputes that. Cancer however is something that people can get without ever having smoked. If you smoke you have an increased risk of getting cancer but if you smoke it doesn't mean you will get cancer.
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