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Re: 4.2 PTR discussion

Postby halabar » Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:19 am

masterpoobaa wrote:Hrm...
I wonder if I should get rid of my stockpiles of V.Fire then.
On our server they are only 16g each and supply is pretty strong. Price may fall if the fire lands dailies flood the market with more.


Depends on your economy size. On larger economies there are likely enough thinking the same thing that they could be oversupplied.

How many pages of V Fire are there now? If it's over 3-4, there will likely be a strong supply after the patch hits.
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Re: 4.2 PTR discussion

Postby Jeremoot » Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:35 am

Now it increases how much your shield blocks by 20% for 10 seconds on a 30 second CD. It's a nice mini-CD, use it when there's a lot of melee burst damage.

Mastery hasn't changed (unless I missed something).
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Re: 4.2 PTR discussion

Postby Samus » Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:39 am

@Jeremoot I guess this was a reply to my thread in the wrong one but cheers for the answer :)
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Re: 4.2 PTR discussion

Postby Jeremoot » Wed Jun 22, 2011 9:13 am

Samus wrote:@Jeremoot I guess this was a reply to my thread in the wrong one but cheers for the answer :)


It's really weird that it posted it here and not in your thread, maybe some sort of forum glitch? :?

That or one of those darn moderators are playing tricks on us.
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Re: 4.2 PTR discussion

Postby Cogglamp » Wed Jun 22, 2011 12:59 pm

Dumb Question: Do short term consumables (a la potions) buff your parry rating?

If yes, is anyone else a little more worried about aggro in the first 15-30 seconds due to a string of RNG parries on boss pulls after chugging a Golemblood potion?

It's not like we have any other potion options at the moment but it could certainly lend to our pulls being even more dicey for the first couple of seconds in 4.2.
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Re: 4.2 PTR discussion

Postby Jeremoot » Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:21 pm

Cogglamp wrote:Dumb Question: Do short term consumables (a la potions) buff your parry rating?


Strength from consumables gives us parry, yes.

Cogglamp wrote:If yes, is anyone else a little more worried about aggro in the first 15-30 seconds due to a string of RNG parries on boss pulls after chugging a Golemblood potion?


Now I'm not following you. Your parry rating doesn't affect the boss's ability to parry you.
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Re: 4.2 PTR discussion

Postby Flex » Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:26 pm

His basis was off but sorta on for different reasons. Your higher parry chance can result in a slower vengeance build up.
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Re: 4.2 PTR discussion

Postby Cogglamp » Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:28 pm

If our parry goes up significantly from a Golemblood Potion and we subsequently parry multiple boss melee swings in a row, this will slow down Vengeance stacking. Right? (Bear with me as I'm returning to the tanking game after a hiatus). This could theoretically result in aggro issues for dpsers that have gone "all out" after a countdown unless I'm overlooking something.
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Re: 4.2 PTR discussion

Postby Arincia » Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:42 pm

Well the golem blood potion increased your attack power by 2*1.05*1200 (i think that's right) or 2520 ap. This is almost equal to having taken 25200 unblocked damage in terms of vengeance. It's also only 315 parry rating (before DR) so around only a 1.5ish more parry. That would hardly be enough to worry about lasting for 25 seconds its a solid reliable threat boost the start. In fact if you found vengeance to be to rng for your liking at the start this is a much better way stabilize that threat gain early on.

Anyways anyone else notice the lack of a 391 tanking and caster cloak again this tier?
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Re: 4.2 PTR discussion

Postby halabar » Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:46 pm

Arincia wrote:Anyways anyone else notice the lack of a 391 tanking and caster cloak again this tier?


Or a non-tanking gun above ilvl 365?.. :roll:
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Re: 4.2 PTR discussion

Postby Cogglamp » Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:47 pm

Thanks for the clarification Arincia. Good thing I prefaced it with "dumb question" since it was one. >.>
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Re: 4.2 PTR discussion

Postby Arincia » Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:52 pm

No such thing as a dumb question now answers on the other hand....

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Re: 4.2 PTR discussion

Postby lythac » Wed Jun 22, 2011 4:47 pm

Arincia wrote:Anyways anyone else notice the lack of a 391 tanking and caster cloak again this tier?

[391] Wings of Flame (H) - Alysrazor Firelands (H)

No tanking one right now.



There seems to be a gap in the belt slot for 391 I thought.
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Re: 4.2 PTR discussion

Postby Digren » Wed Jun 22, 2011 5:59 pm

[Durable Flamewrath Greatclock] ?

Not sure how the 378 is upgraded; assuming Crystallized Firestone for now. Or this doesn't exist.
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Re: 4.2 PTR discussion

Postby Arincia » Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:12 pm

That cloak isn't upgradable via the crystallized fire atm. (or any rep items atm only certain boe's and valor items (not valor rings/necks/wrist) are upgradable)
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