4.2 PTR discussion

[cerwillis]

Naxx 5man!

calling it now!

They wont have to change it at all! Tune unbalancing strikes to hit for 300k. DONE, NEW CONTENT!!!

[bldavis]

wait...so we will be able to solo a new heroic?

[Flex]

The reason is that most have gotten boored with the same game for 6 months.
And Hardmodes are there for those who want to challenge themselves, for the "elite" players as blizzard puts it.

There are two big issues you gleam from just browsing the forum that people complain about but it can sorta be summed up as "trade chat PUGs failing upwards don't happen in Cataclysm."

Personally I felt the biggest misstep was the difficulty jump from normal 85s to heroics and feel normals should be ramped up a lot. But then I read something like this "Normal Cata dungeons are just plain too difficult." and realize I have no clue as to what people want from this game.

[Hrobertgar]

I think there are just lots of casual players that do not fully understand how to optimize their spec or rotation. Every once in a while I run into a dps in ilvl 300 gear who is only pulling 4k. For ppl used to not doing cc, but not yet way overgearing a place, things can be frustrating. Just think back to the first week or two of the expansion before all the content nerfs, when we all had intro gear.

This past weekend I joined a PUG in process on my mage, and they were on the first boss in HoO. After we beat it, I kept sheeping one add for the pulls upto the timed gauntlet but the tank would charge in and aggro everything and break the cc. The healer was struggling. After a couple wipes (thank god for mage invis) a dps left, and we wiped again. Everyone left but me and 1 other dps/shammy. I noticed he had res sickness debuff and was pulling 4k AOE damage. (ok so rez sickness was the reason why, but I have seen some who were almost as bad without sickenss) He was hiding out in dwarven district and not queing us up again, so I vote kicked him (success, and with 11 min queues I do not feel bad, I should not have to suffer while his sickness wears off) lol and queued to complete the run.

The new group incldued a 3-man guild group and they were like huh? We got the timed run (much easier since they removed the RP part of the timer) and then also got the achieve on Raj, everyone was happy.

But I'm still not excited about queueing for a random troll run, guild runs ok, randoms no.

[Flex]

eff the usage of casual ;p

[Hokahey]

But then I read something like this "Normal Cata dungeons are just plain too difficult." and realize I have no clue as to what people want from this game.

This. I'm not even sure what I want from this game right now, much less anyone else.

[Passionario]

Naxx 5man!

calling it now!

I'll see your Naxx, and raise you Heroic Karazhan.

[mclem]

Naxx 5man!

calling it now!

I'll see your Naxx, and raise you Heroic Karazhan.

Other than it being a bit long, I'd quite like this.

One thing to bear in mind about an imagined 5-man setting is that I very much doubt they'd create a Dungeon Finder tier with only a single instance in it; so either we'd get multiple new 5-mans for each 5-man tier, or new ones would fall into the 353 bracket too.

[bldavis]

Naxx 5man!

calling it now!

I'll see your Naxx, and raise you Heroic Karazhan.

i would love 5man kara

[theckhd]

5-man Kara could easily be split into two instances.

"Lower Kara"
Attumen
Moroes
Opera
Maiden (optional)
Nightbane

"Karazhan Spire"
Curator
Illhoof (optional)
Aran
Netherspite (optional)
Chess
Malchezaar

It's a big place, but if you cut out some of the trash packs and provided more frequent teleporters it would be manageable.

[Flex]

2 years of my game life was spent in that hole. No thanks.

[Nikachelle]

2 years of my game life was spent in that hole. No thanks.

Pretty much.

I'd like for us to see NEW stuff please. Enough with the rehashing.

[bldavis]

2 years of my game life was spent in that hole. No thanks.

Pretty much.

I'd like for us to see NEW stuff please. Enough with the rehashing.

well i meant if we HAD to have rehashed stuff, i wouldnt mind Kara too much

then again i didnt raid it, i started playing at the end of bc
but i agree i would rather have new stuff vs. rehash

[Chicken]

If we have another raid rehashed as 5-man it needs to be Tempest Keep.

[Shathus]

2 years of my game life was spent in that hole. No thanks.

Pretty much.

I'd like for us to see NEW stuff please. Enough with the rehashing.

Karazhan was merely a setback!