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Re: Kingdom Tower

Postby duruk » Tue Apr 12, 2011 3:06 pm

I can't really remember where I saw it (might have been a TED Talk), but there is apparently research going into this problem, using a molecular system rather than a pump system.

Briefly, they were going to run capillary tubes up the entire building, and have water suck itself up. Sounds like a fun idea and a good on if it works. I haven't looked closely at the theory though, so apply a grain of salt where appropriate.
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Re: Kingdom Tower

Postby Snake-Aes » Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:14 pm

duruk wrote:I can't really remember where I saw it (might have been a TED Talk), but there is apparently research going into this problem, using a molecular system rather than a pump system.

Briefly, they were going to run capillary tubes up the entire building, and have water suck itself up. Sounds like a fun idea and a good on if it works. I haven't looked closely at the theory though, so apply a grain of salt where appropriate.

I heard about it, but I don't think it will work for such a large scale product. Capillary systems work best under small regions, like a rhizome or capillary veins. There's a reason all organisms bigger than a blot of fungus use centralized circulatory systems like veins and xylems.
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Re: Kingdom Tower

Postby duruk » Wed Apr 13, 2011 1:44 pm

Snake-Aes wrote:I heard about it, but I don't think it will work for such a large scale product. Capillary systems work best under small regions, like a rhizome or capillary veins. There's a reason all organisms bigger than a blot of fungus use centralized circulatory systems like veins and xylems.


Kind of like trees, right? ;)

IIRC, they weren't trying to get it up all in one go, but in multiple steps, with reservoirs between the tubes. I don't think there is anything fundamentally flawed with the system, I'm just curious if they can get the volume/h needed.
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Re: Kingdom Tower

Postby Snake-Aes » Wed Apr 13, 2011 6:35 pm

Yes, like trees, they have a centralized circulatory system. You can kill a tree by strangling it.

I wonder how they can do it in a practical manner, particularly without turning the tower into a sponge.
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Re: Kingdom Tower

Postby Tev » Thu Apr 14, 2011 8:38 am

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Re: Kingdom Tower

Postby Lightbeard » Sun Apr 17, 2011 7:04 am

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Re: Kingdom Tower

Postby Brekkie » Sun Apr 17, 2011 3:25 pm

The part about this that makes it even more absurd is that most office buildings in Saudi Arabia are over 75% unoccupied because there's not enough actual work going on in these cities to warrant all the office space.
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Re: Kingdom Tower

Postby Snake-Aes » Sun Apr 17, 2011 4:27 pm

Brekkie wrote:The part about this that makes it even more absurd is that most office buildings in Saudi Arabia are over 75% unoccupied because there's not enough actual work going on in these cities to warrant all the office space.
The skyscrapers are almost entirely a phallic status symbol.



When WEREN'T they such? I'm all for Acropolis levels of construction, but so far it simply isn't necessary.
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Re: Kingdom Tower

Postby Masumi » Sun Apr 17, 2011 5:48 pm

I am sorry if it might sound like a bad comment but it does seem that this building will just look like a really big target for terrorist acts. if this is taken as a bad comment I am sorry again before hand but it's my current view of this project.
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Re: Kingdom Tower

Postby Lightbeard » Sun Apr 17, 2011 6:24 pm

Masumi wrote:I am sorry if it might sound like a bad comment but it does seem that this building will just look like a really big target for terrorist acts. if this is taken as a bad comment I am sorry again before hand but it's my current view of this project.


It's an easy target sure but it's not a target terrorists would gain anything from attacking as opposed to a densely populated area.
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Re: Kingdom Tower

Postby Snake-Aes » Sun Apr 17, 2011 7:06 pm

Masumi wrote:I am sorry if it might sound like a bad comment but it does seem that this building will just look like a really big target for terrorist acts. if this is taken as a bad comment I am sorry again before hand but it's my current view of this project.

No, not really. And people who take offense to that are, to me, over dramatic. I know a couple people whose friends&family took a hit from the WTC incident and they never really felt bothered by it past the obligatory mourning that comes from losing a loved one.

You are right, to a point. Generally speaking any symbol is a valid target for morale damage, which the Kingdom Tower will be as soon as it thrives. I don't believe, though, that should be a reason to avoid building it, but I don't know enough about psychology/mass psychology/SPENDINGMONIES! to make a more informed opinion.
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Re: Kingdom Tower

Postby Skye1013 » Mon Apr 18, 2011 8:15 am

I love these forums... I come here to read about WoW and end up getting sucked (pun intended) into a water pump discussion :D. I do wonder about one of the other links on that site though... Wiiii. Supposedly going to be more powerful than a PS3 or Xbox360...
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Re: Kingdom Tower

Postby Blackharon » Mon Apr 18, 2011 9:34 am

Skye1013 wrote:I love these forums... I come here to read about WoW and end up getting sucked (pun intended) into a water pump discussion :D. I do wonder about one of the other links on that site though... Wiiii. Supposedly going to be more powerful than a PS3 or Xbox360...

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Re: Kingdom Tower

Postby Snake-Aes » Mon Apr 18, 2011 9:46 am

But you can smoke Wiihd...
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Re: Kingdom Tower

Postby Masumi » Mon Apr 18, 2011 10:45 am

wonder when wii 3 comes out are they just going to add two more ii?
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