Do absorb shields works pre or post mitigation?
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Do absorb shields works pre or post mitigation?
I remember that back in vanilla, they changed so that shields worked pre-mitigation, making them really weak on targets with high armor. Have they changed that now so that armor and DR-talents work with shields? Otherwise that would severely undervalue disc priests and our (Holy Paladins) Mastery.
Can anyone shed some Light?
Can anyone shed some Light?
- RichoDemus
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Re: Do absorb shields works pre or post mitigation?
The change back in vanilla was in fact to make absorption effects work post-mitigation, and they've continued to be post-mitigation since.

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Chicken - Posts: 425
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Re: Do absorb shields works pre or post mitigation?
oh, thanks for clearing that up
- RichoDemus
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Re: Do absorb shields works pre or post mitigation?
Ive noticed some strange blocks on the trash before Ascendant Council, where the air elementals put up a debuff that gives you 100% less armor.
Seeing 110k hits with a 15k block.
I would assume thats just a buggy debuff tho.
Seeing 110k hits with a 15k block.
I would assume thats just a buggy debuff tho.
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Treck - Posts: 1431
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Re: Do absorb shields works pre or post mitigation?
Treck wrote:Ive noticed some strange blocks on the trash before Ascendant Council, where the air elementals put up a debuff that gives you 100% less armor.
Seeing 110k hits with a 15k block.
I would assume thats just a buggy debuff tho.
I was originally taken aback by this possibility but I realize now that it must just be a peculiarity of that specific debuff. If that were the case with all buff and debuffs, we'd take only 10% damage on a blocked hit with Gank up.
Moo.
- theothersteve7
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Re: Do absorb shields works pre or post mitigation?
here's something I haven't been able to find a good answer to:
Where do abilities like the mana generation from Sanctuary fit in (i.e. does the dodge/block come first so it gets triggered)? It may be my imagination, but I swear I have more mana issues with Disc priests... but it would seem a terrible idea if that were the case (and wowpedia seems to have some conflicting information about this).
Where do abilities like the mana generation from Sanctuary fit in (i.e. does the dodge/block come first so it gets triggered)? It may be my imagination, but I swear I have more mana issues with Disc priests... but it would seem a terrible idea if that were the case (and wowpedia seems to have some conflicting information about this).
- benebarba
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Re: Do absorb shields works pre or post mitigation?
Treck wrote:Ive noticed some strange blocks on the trash before Ascendant Council, where the air elementals put up a debuff that gives you 100% less armor.
Seeing 110k hits with a 15k block.
I would assume thats just a buggy debuff tho.
Sounds like the same issue that was going on with Anub adds. Damaging Attack->Combat Roll->Debuff Applied to result of the attack
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Flex - Posts: 4677
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Re: Do absorb shields works pre or post mitigation?
You definitely still avoid/block attacks when an absorption shield is on you; I fondly remember being able to tank some mobs in Ulduar without needing to swap tanks for their stacking debuff, as a combination of avoidance, blocking and power word: shield ensured their debuff never actually stacked. There could be a bug with sanctuary not triggering when you block an attack with an absorb shield active though, or something else along those lines.benebarba wrote:here's something I haven't been able to find a good answer to:
Where do abilities like the mana generation from Sanctuary fit in (i.e. does the dodge/block come first so it gets triggered)? It may be my imagination, but I swear I have more mana issues with Disc priests... but it would seem a terrible idea if that were the case (and wowpedia seems to have some conflicting information about this).

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