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lvl 85 tank comparison?

Postby Zibey » Thu Jan 13, 2011 5:27 am

I was looking for some information over the internet, and couldn't find anything that wouldn't be horribly outdated or simply a whine. I should probably add that I had over a year break from the game, and dinged half a week ago, so I didn't have much chance and time to go through different class mechanics.

Yet I am really wondering what are the differences between tanks right now, as they definately don't seem to be as homogenous as I expected them to be (given the trend I saw in Lich King). I do not ask "which tank is better" but more in line of "what's warriors strength compared to paladins amazing self healing?".

Is there any detailed and preferably theory-crafted comparison that I missed? If not - is anyone willing to write one here?

(Main reason I ask this is that only tank class I didn't play was a DK, and I am thinking of trying something else than my good 'ol pally ;)).
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Re: lvl 85 tank comparison?

Postby Bobness » Thu Jan 13, 2011 6:35 am

Having levelled both to 85 the wa
rrior was a whole lot more fun to play and I'm never using my "smartphone" to add another reply
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Re: lvl 85 tank comparison?

Postby Shyrtandros » Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:29 am

The warrior has alot of "movement" capabilities that other classes do not have Charge, Intercept, Intervene, and Heroic Leap. All this movement makes Warriors amazing.

I have not noticed much changes to bear druid yet :| but my bear is not yet 85.
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Re: lvl 85 tank comparison?

Postby culhag » Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:33 am

From my experience, the other tanks have better aoe threat than us.

DKs heal themselves for a lot.
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Re: lvl 85 tank comparison?

Postby Skye1013 » Thu Jan 13, 2011 8:07 am

culhag wrote:DKs should heal themselves for a lot.

Fix't... I've seen some DK tanks that use Death Strike less than my Frost DPS DK...
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Re: lvl 85 tank comparison?

Postby Jedah » Thu Jan 13, 2011 11:37 am

Having leveled a DK tank to 85 as my "new main for cataclysm," I can tell you that the times when you REALLY need to be death striking a lot are the times you usually can't because you're too busy using those runes for other purposes, such as getting AOE threat, reapplying frost fever or scarlet fever, or popping bone shield when blood tap is on CD.
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Re: lvl 85 tank comparison?

Postby bldavis » Thu Jan 13, 2011 12:48 pm

warrior - mobility
pally - self heals
bear - massive dps, massive hp pool
dk - self healing, good aoe

this is all afaik, i only have an 85 prot warrior, pally and bear are both 82
(dk is only 67 and not touched since about july)
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Re: lvl 85 tank comparison?

Postby Njall » Thu Jan 13, 2011 1:13 pm

bldavis wrote:warrior - mobility
pally - self heals, mitigation
bear - massive dps, massive hp pool
dk - self healing, good aoe


Just sayin'
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Re: lvl 85 tank comparison?

Postby bldavis » Thu Jan 13, 2011 1:28 pm

Njall wrote:
bldavis wrote:warrior - mobility
pally - self heals, mitigation
bear - massive dps, massive hp pool
dk - self healing, good aoe


Just sayin'

ty, i knew i was having a brainfart
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Re: lvl 85 tank comparison?

Postby Shathus » Thu Jan 13, 2011 3:18 pm

Njall wrote:
bldavis wrote:warrior - mobility
pally - self heals, mitigation
bear - massive dps, massive hp pool
dk - self healing, good aoe


Just sayin'


Do Bears really have that big a health pool lead over the rest of us nowadays? My bear co-tank is in roughly the same gear level as I (346+) and I remember our HP being about even post buffs.
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Re: lvl 85 tank comparison?

Postby bldavis » Thu Jan 13, 2011 3:30 pm

my 82 bear has a nearly 100k hp pool when buffed
it took my warrior til 84 to get that
(now she has like 150k buffed 131 unbuffed)
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Re: lvl 85 tank comparison?

Postby Skye1013 » Fri Jan 14, 2011 2:33 am

bldavis wrote:my 82 bear has a nearly 100k hp pool when buffed
it took my warrior til 84 to get that
(now she has like 150k buffed 131 unbuffed)

Are you sure you haven't been upgrading your gear faster on the bear than the warrior?

Re: Death strike: After about 4 wipes on the final boss of Lost City with said DK tank, we booted him (or he left, I don't remember), and I switched to blood, got in far more DS, the healer was happier, and we completed the instance. It's possible he was just another fail DK, but it's not the first time it's happened, just the most recent one I can remember.
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Re: lvl 85 tank comparison?

Postby sally » Fri Jan 14, 2011 3:22 am

Bear tanks no longer have a significant health pool lead on the rest of us (if any at all?). My co-tank bear has been gearing up equally fast and we've had roughly the same size health pool throughout raiding progression (I've even been slightly ahead mostly, but that might just be because of gemming/enchant choices).
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Re: lvl 85 tank comparison?

Postby Discus » Fri Jan 14, 2011 7:01 am

Trade spams for tanks on my server are usually "LF tank (dk/warrior)" or "Tank needed heroic (dk pref)". Overall DKs seem the most favoured tanks whilst Paladins (and possibly druids) the least. This probably has no basis in any theorycraft, but I do miss the days when I joined a PuG and the response was “Woot! pally tank!”

Why did we go out of fashion again? Lack of aoe threat?
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Re: lvl 85 tank comparison?

Postby Zibey » Fri Jan 14, 2011 7:29 am

How's paladins mitigation better than warriors? I still don't really get mechanics of crit block nowadays, but I was under impression that block was equally good for both classes. Or do you mean shielding with overheals? Or some talent?

Arrgh... I am confused.

I also don't think you can say paladin LACKS aoe threat - I certainly didn't run into problems with it in my heroic experience, but maybe in raid? How are other classes better?
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