Beefadin: Endurance vs. Magic Resistance

[Niloc]

It's accepted knowledge that since Tauren Endurance works on 5% of base HP it's pretty worthless as a min/max racial to benefit tanks.

My question is whether Blood Elf Magic Resistance is any better. I love with the idea of having a Beefadin, but I don't want to sacrifice real survivability for aesthetics.

People generally marginalize Magic Resistance as well as Endurance, but in a world where all else is equal, which is a better tanking racial and by how much?

[Braundo]

Being that Magic Resistance is being changed to Arcane Resistance in Cataclysm (if it isn't already?), I would still say that Endurance is better. I'd take an extra ~2500 health (or whatever it is) over an Arcane magic resistance that might very rarely matter, and doesn't stack with most other magic resistance buffs (so far as I know).

It's not like either is all that big of a deal, though, as you say.

[Non]

Arcane Torrent: off GCD aoe interupt

[Khellitha]

Always play what you will enjoy more, the Racials generally arn't powerfull enough compared to disliking your toon because you chose a race you don't really like!

[Kalortpor]

Arcane Torrent: off GCD aoe interupt

[Karnadas]

I'd take an extra ~2500 health (or whatever it is) over an Arcane magic resistance that might very rarely matter, and doesn't stack with most other magic resistance buffs (so far as I know).

When I race changed on the PTR, I believe the difference in health was around 450hp. 5% of base health is not 2k+

[Braundo]

I'd take an extra ~2500 health (or whatever it is) over an Arcane magic resistance that might very rarely matter, and doesn't stack with most other magic resistance buffs (so far as I know).

When I race changed on the PTR, I believe the difference in health was around 450hp. 5% of base health is not 2k+

At level 85, I meant. Beta players from this forum have stated Endurance to grant somewhere between 2000-2500 health at level 85.

[fuzzygeek]

Arcane Torrent: off GCD aoe interupt

[Worldie]

I'd take an extra ~2500 health (or whatever it is) over an Arcane magic resistance that might very rarely matter, and doesn't stack with most other magic resistance buffs (so far as I know).

When I race changed on the PTR, I believe the difference in health was around 450hp. 5% of base health is not 2k+

At level 85, I meant. Beta players from this forum have stated Endurance to grant somewhere between 2000-2500 health at level 85.

2500 hp on HP pools of over 150k in entry level gear, probably over 250k in end game gear, doesn't seemb significant to me to justify playing a cow! (that is, if i was still horde)

[Braundo]

Of course it doesn't -- I don't think anybody here is pretending that any racials are so good that it's not viable to play any other race. People should pick whatever race they want -- the OP was just asking specifically about the value of Endurance vs. Arcane Resistance, and I gave my opinion on that specific point.

[Worldie]

My point was that the value of Endurance - the value of playing a cow is < Value of Arcane resistance.
:p

[Niloc]

My original (poorly researched) question is moot. It's not a question of comparing Endurance to Magic Resistance, because Magic Resistance has been changed to be in line with Nature Resistance. They're both kind of marginal resistance types that we're getting 2% of.

Then the question becomes Arcane Torrent vs. Warstomp, with Arcane Torrent as a clear winner. The difference is I'm less likely to stay a BE for an interrupting mana pot than I was for a racial that directly boosted mitigation. The interrupt is handy, but my raids have never relied on me as an interrupter so I don't feel much of a loss there.

Guess I'll be stocking up on mana pots.

[Awyndel]

I think you're using the words "accepted knowledge" wrong here. Especially in the context of min/maxing. The very point of min/maxing is picking up little bonuses, like that 2K health, to maximise your performance. There are a lot of ppl who would be very happy with 2K health. Me for instance.

And don't cows have nature resistance as well?

[Worldie]

They do but all the Resist racials don't stack with raid buffs so they give no benefit at all in a raid.

Actually on min-max situation unless Cata bosses require lots of interrupts, Cows win. The "mana pot" effect havent been needed since 3.0 already so it's a moot point.

[Arnock]

Arcane torrent AND the ability to fit through doors>>>>> endurance.