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spell hit on touch by the light?

Postby Minnerva » Sun Oct 17, 2010 12:45 am

tanking tree gives you touch by the light, gives you 6% spell hit, why if all of our offensive tanking spells use melee hit?
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Re: spell hit on touch by the light?

Postby lythac » Sun Oct 17, 2010 6:59 am

Taunts still uses spell hit.

The Glyph of Righteous Defense got changed, without the 6% spell hit from TbtL we wouldn't be able to get hit cap on taunt for fights it is required without giving up too much avoidance/sta.

Least I'm pretty sure taunts haven't been changed.
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Re: spell hit on touch by the light?

Postby Grehn|Skipjack » Sun Oct 17, 2010 8:17 am

I believe Holy Wrath and Exorcism are on Spell hit also.
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Re: spell hit on touch by the light?

Postby theckhd » Sun Oct 17, 2010 11:07 am

Grehn|Skipjack wrote:I believe Holy Wrath and Exorcism are on Spell hit also.

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Re: spell hit on touch by the light?

Postby Awyndel » Sun Oct 17, 2010 10:49 pm

Well we would need 11% to cap taunt then. Not something I'm really interested in.

But I am going to be less worried about reforging slightly over the hit cap.
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Re: spell hit on touch by the light?

Postby HammU » Mon Oct 18, 2010 4:25 am

Awyndel wrote:Well we would need 11% to cap taunt then. Not something I'm really interested in.

But I am going to be less worried about reforging slightly over the hit cap.


Actually, if you're at 8% melee hit you will be at about 11% cast hit, since those two dont scale the same way. I can't give you any exact numbers atm, but you definitively will reach the hitcap for your casts, if you're melee hitcapped.

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Re: spell hit on touch by the light?

Postby Awyndel » Mon Oct 18, 2010 12:30 pm

Hmm, seems you're right. They scale different. 8.3% melee, 9.7% spell. Still nowhere near the cap though.
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Re: spell hit on touch by the light?

Postby lythac » Mon Oct 18, 2010 1:43 pm

Misery and Improved Faerie Fire Still look to increase spell hit chance by 3%. If you don't happen to raid with either a Shadow Priest or Boomkin -

Hopefully a hunter pet can do it as well.

6% from TbtL isn't meant to make capping taunt a given, it just makes it accessible for the one or two fights you might need it by swapping in a couple of hit pieces at the expense of expertise/avoidance/mastery.

Edit - See Kysen's post below
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Re: spell hit on touch by the light?

Postby KysenMurrin » Mon Oct 18, 2010 1:58 pm

They may still be in Wowhead's database, but the talents aren't in the talent trees, so you're not gonna se them anywhere in game. 3% hit debuffs are gone.
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Re: spell hit on touch by the light?

Postby Kihra » Tue Oct 19, 2010 9:52 am

Has someone actually tested that taunts are still spell hit? I thought that was something they wanted to change.
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Re: spell hit on touch by the light?

Postby lythac » Wed Oct 20, 2010 2:26 am

News from yesterday -

MMO-Champion wrote:Protection

* Touched by the Light now increases spell hit by 8%, up from 6%.


Rating per 1% Hit - 120.109
Rating per 1% Spell Hit - 102.446

Spell hit cap rating = (17-8)*102.446 = 922
Melee hit cap rating = 8*120.109 = 960

Melee hit cap will give spell hit cap now.

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Re: spell hit on touch by the light?

Postby HammU » Fri Oct 22, 2010 12:23 am

Awyndel wrote:Hmm, seems you're right. They scale different. 8.3% melee, 9.7% spell. Still nowhere near the cap though.


Oh, didn't notice that, but it's good to see they changed hat. thx lythac for the infos.
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Re: spell hit on touch by the light?

Postby Gamingdevil » Fri Oct 22, 2010 7:08 am

HammU wrote:
Awyndel wrote:Hmm, seems you're right. They scale different. 8.3% melee, 9.7% spell. Still nowhere near the cap though.


Oh, didn't notice that, but it's good to see they changed hat. thx lythac for the infos.


I'm pretty sure spell hit has always scaled faster than melee hit.
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Re: spell hit on touch by the light?

Postby Awyndel » Fri Oct 22, 2010 10:01 am

I dont know if taunt is still on the spell hit. It would be pretty unfair to other tanks if we could hit cap them that easily.
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Re: spell hit on touch by the light?

Postby Iliketomoveit » Thu Nov 18, 2010 6:01 pm

Awyndel wrote:I dont know if taunt is still on the spell hit. It would be pretty unfair to other tanks if we could hit cap them that easily.


Yup it looks like paladins are the only tanks now who have all taunts using the spell-hit:

Druid
Growl / Challenging Roar School:Physical

Death Knight
Dark Command School:Physical Death Grip School:Shadow

Warrior
Taunt / Challenging Shout School:Physical

Paladin
Hand of Reckoning / Righteous Defense School:Holy
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