The Maintankadin Cataclysm Gear List
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Re: The Maintankadin Cataclysm Gear List
Darkmoon Card: Greatness
90 Strength
Proc: 300 Strength for 15 seconds (every ~60 seconds) = average 75 STR
Kvaldir Battle Standard
166 Haste Rating
Use: 825 Strength for 10 seconds (60 second cooldown) = average 137.5 STR
Impatience of Youth
321 Mastery Rating
Use: 1425 Strength for 20 seconds (2 minute cooldown) = average 237.5 STR
These all have about the same ratio of passive stats to average use/proc benefit. It may well be overpowered to have a trinket with such a big strength proc be usable whenever you like, but it's not a placeholder.
I'm more interested by the Mirror of Broken Images, as the dodge amount is clearly wrong but a trinket which is up for 40 seconds every 2 minutes? Might as well put it on autocast.
90 Strength
Proc: 300 Strength for 15 seconds (every ~60 seconds) = average 75 STR
Kvaldir Battle Standard
166 Haste Rating
Use: 825 Strength for 10 seconds (60 second cooldown) = average 137.5 STR
Impatience of Youth
321 Mastery Rating
Use: 1425 Strength for 20 seconds (2 minute cooldown) = average 237.5 STR
These all have about the same ratio of passive stats to average use/proc benefit. It may well be overpowered to have a trinket with such a big strength proc be usable whenever you like, but it's not a placeholder.
I'm more interested by the Mirror of Broken Images, as the dodge amount is clearly wrong but a trinket which is up for 40 seconds every 2 minutes? Might as well put it on autocast.
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Re: The Maintankadin Cataclysm Gear List
Marsha wrote:I doubt we'd get on use ability of 1425 strength for 20 seconds every 2 minutes, possibly 425, but the itemization on those trinkets look like place holders to me. Remember tooltips are often wrong on beta and before they added the rep requirement, I used both trinkets and wasn't getting either on use effect to actually do anything.
Totally fair points, except for the first one. Getting 1425 str as a clicky sounds totally in line with the number scaling we're expecting at L85.
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Re: The Maintankadin Cataclysm Gear List
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/55249/triton-legplates/ - Legs
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/55992/armg ... hly-light/ - Bracers
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/56124/eart ... pauldrons/ - Shoulders
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/56099/fingers-of-light/ - Hand
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/55992/armg ... hly-light/ - Bracers
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/56124/eart ... pauldrons/ - Shoulders
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/56099/fingers-of-light/ - Hand
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Re: The Maintankadin Cataclysm Gear List
Loras wrote:I think I've probably missed it.
What's with all the "spell hit"?*insert a terrified look*
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Re: The Maintankadin Cataclysm Gear List
Reforge options:
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/55265/sign ... formation/ - Finger
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/59782/pris ... nkle-band/ - Finger
Profession based Trinket
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/58483/life ... ist-stone/ - Alchemy
And don't forget
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/59359/rein ... illshades/ - Head (Engi) equipped with the proper eng "gems"
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/55265/sign ... formation/ - Finger
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/59782/pris ... nkle-band/ - Finger
Profession based Trinket
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/58483/life ... ist-stone/ - Alchemy
And don't forget
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/59359/rein ... illshades/ - Head (Engi) equipped with the proper eng "gems"
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Re: The Maintankadin Cataclysm Gear List
There is no spell hit, on any gear. If you see any, it's an error.
Paladins get 6% spell hit as part of the Protection specialization, by the way.
Paladins get 6% spell hit as part of the Protection specialization, by the way.
Gladiator Psiven, 90 Tankadin
85 Dru, 85 Mage, 85 DK, 70 War, 70 Pal, 60 Priest, 60 Lock, 64 Rogue
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85 Dru, 85 Mage, 85 DK, 70 War, 70 Pal, 60 Priest, 60 Lock, 64 Rogue
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Re: The Maintankadin Cataclysm Gear List
Relics
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/62243/notched-jawbone/ - Epic Undefined Str/Stam Relic (could be sigil/libram)
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/62240/etched-horn/ - Rare Undefined Str/Stam Relic (could be sigil/libram)
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/61399/emerald-heart/ - Uncommon Tanking Libram
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/61440/reli ... waywalker/ - Uncommon Threat Libram
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/62243/notched-jawbone/ - Epic Undefined Str/Stam Relic (could be sigil/libram)
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/62240/etched-horn/ - Rare Undefined Str/Stam Relic (could be sigil/libram)
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/61399/emerald-heart/ - Uncommon Tanking Libram
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/61440/reli ... waywalker/ - Uncommon Threat Libram
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Re: The Maintankadin Cataclysm Gear List
they're making relics un-differentiated so they can have them drop as normal loot. So we'll be sharing them with DKs and Druids, essentially.
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Yeah, but I don't think we'll be taking the str/stam librams from the bears, instead, I believe they will go with the Agi/Stam ones.
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Klaudandus wrote:Yeah, but I don't think we'll be taking the str/stam librams from the bears, instead, I believe they will go with the Agi/Stam ones.
yeah you're probably right
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Re: The Maintankadin Cataclysm Gear List
Sabindeus wrote:Klaudandus wrote:Yeah, but I don't think we'll be taking the str/stam librams from the bears, instead, I believe they will go with the Agi/Stam ones.
yeah you're probably right
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/62245/silver-inlaid-leaf/
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/62242/runed-dragonscale/
Strange thing is that, at the epic level, the agi/stam one has more stam than the str/stam one -- heck, even the Int/Stam one has more stam than the Str/Stam one.
Of course, this is most likely a mere case of budget allocation that hasn't been fixed yet.
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Re: The Maintankadin Cataclysm Gear List
Reputation items
Tank items
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/62351/fels ... f-resolve/
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/62432/gryp ... ers-boots/
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/62428/crown-of-wings/
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/62449/sandguard-bracers/
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/62440/red-rock-band/
Shoulder Enchants
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/62321/less ... le-quartz/
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/62333/grea ... le-quartz/
Reforge candidates:
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/62437/shroud-of-the-dead/
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/62430/gryp ... gauntlets/
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/62447/gift-of-nadun/
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/62476/ravening-slicer/
Trinket with Mastery
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/62468/unsolvable-riddle/
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/62469/impatience-of-youth/
Tank items
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/62351/fels ... f-resolve/
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/62432/gryp ... ers-boots/
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/62428/crown-of-wings/
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/62449/sandguard-bracers/
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/62440/red-rock-band/
Shoulder Enchants
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/62321/less ... le-quartz/
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/62333/grea ... le-quartz/
Reforge candidates:
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/62437/shroud-of-the-dead/
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/62430/gryp ... gauntlets/
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/62447/gift-of-nadun/
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/62476/ravening-slicer/
Trinket with Mastery
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/62468/unsolvable-riddle/
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/62469/impatience-of-youth/
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Re: The Maintankadin Cataclysm Gear List
I have updated the list!
I left off any Str/Stam items that have Haste or Crit - they're purely offensive stats and while the items may have merit, I'm going to leave them off. I also left off Agi/Stam items.
I included all hit/exp/mastery combinations, though, which means there are some "dps" pieces on our list that still have all "tank" stats.
A lot of things are "unknown" to me because I've been busy and haven't had much time to play on beta, and frankly haven't wanted to after some of our changes. Let me know where things are from! My database search also only covered items above item level 284 because Sigrie's search function is crap compared to Wowhead's, so I couldn't do the specific search I wanted to. If there are any sub-284 items (these would be quested blues) that I have not listed, please post them (with source if possible) and I will add them.
Also note that all links are currently MMO-Champion "Sigrie" database links, which I will replace with Wowhead links once they are all there.
I left off any Str/Stam items that have Haste or Crit - they're purely offensive stats and while the items may have merit, I'm going to leave them off. I also left off Agi/Stam items.
I included all hit/exp/mastery combinations, though, which means there are some "dps" pieces on our list that still have all "tank" stats.
A lot of things are "unknown" to me because I've been busy and haven't had much time to play on beta, and frankly haven't wanted to after some of our changes. Let me know where things are from! My database search also only covered items above item level 284 because Sigrie's search function is crap compared to Wowhead's, so I couldn't do the specific search I wanted to. If there are any sub-284 items (these would be quested blues) that I have not listed, please post them (with source if possible) and I will add them.
Also note that all links are currently MMO-Champion "Sigrie" database links, which I will replace with Wowhead links once they are all there.
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Re: The Maintankadin Cataclysm Gear List
There's one rep item that doesn't seem to be on the DBs yet that I've found - Stone-Wrapped Greaves, Honored with Earthen Ring, level 83 blue leg armor, ilevel 333. I posted the stats in another thread but we'll probably have to wait for a working link to add them to this one.
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