League of Legends

Non-WoW game discussions

Moderators: Fridmarr, Worldie, Aergis, Aubade

Re: League of Legends

Postby Argali » Mon May 31, 2010 2:59 am

Try http://www.leaguecraft.com for guides and shit. Take everything with a grain of salt though, people make weird item choices in guides.

If you get life steal from each bounce, attack speed/life steal/crit sounds awesome.
Image
User avatar
Argali
 
Posts: 625
Joined: Sat Jan 26, 2008 7:38 am

Re: League of Legends

Postby Levantine » Mon May 31, 2010 3:16 am

I'm 99% sure I was getting life back from each bounce, I'll play around with it some more.

Boomerang is <3 though too.
User avatar
Levantine
 
Posts: 7367
Joined: Fri Oct 26, 2007 6:48 pm
Location: NQ, Aus

Re: League of Legends

Postby Arnock » Mon May 31, 2010 8:39 am

Levantine wrote:Rofl, so I just decided to try playing defensively in my latest Sivir bender instead of running head first into the fray. It turns out that starting out defensively and farming teh goldz makes Sivir fucking mean by the end of it, especially when you're leveling faster than everyone else.

<3 Melting towers and using waves of creeps to regen (I've been trying out a haste/lifesteal item setup, dunno if that's normal or not)



I generally go with haste/life steal/attack damage, gotten to the point where I can solo a pack of creeps with a cannon, and still come out with more health than I started with.
Image
Courage not of this earth in your eyes
Faith from far beyond lies deep inside
User avatar
Arnock
 
Posts: 2775
Joined: Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:36 pm
Location: Everywhere and nowhere

Re: League of Legends

Postby Hayz » Mon May 31, 2010 8:51 am

I've been playing with akali, getting fairly effective with her in mid game and late game, not always great synergy at random matches, but i can work in fairly well in team fights. Whether that means knocking out their hardest hitting squishy or picking off people that run with shadow dance, even in a losing game i end up with about 8-15 kills, 4-6 deaths, in a team that works well together i can hit 20+ kills and 4-5 deaths. I usually start with longsword and a health pot for laning, once i hit 6 (hopefully with first blood thrown in somewhere) i secure the lane before porting back for either a sheen or a phage depending on how much im being focused. i usually lane until about 9, ganking when i can now that i have full capabilities. after that ill start jungling for a bit or find people to pick off. Once i can, i get a trinity force and usually a pair of ninja tabi unless theres a lot of CC on the enemy team causing me problems. If the game lasts long enough i'll pick up a rageblade for turret killing and higher health targets. Once it hits late game and becomes mostly team fights, I'll either break off to push or defending a second lane or circle around where the other 4 are pushing and hit a squishy character from the side or behind while everyone is distracted. Circling around behind the cluster of their team also means that with a shadow dance and mark i can usually drop someone who was running away with low health.

I really want to try some of the other assassin characters now, does anyone know what day the heroes change?
Deathknights are whores! They're cheap, easy, and spread diseases.
OOM, pulling more trash.
Its alright, I'm a Paladin!
They can't stop us let 'em try, for heavy metal we will die!
Image
User avatar
Hayz
 
Posts: 557
Joined: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:13 am

Re: League of Legends

Postby Argali » Mon May 31, 2010 10:07 am

As mentioned, it seems to be after the downtime on Wednesday, though for some reason, the EU servers haven't rotated yet, possibly due to the server migration.
Last edited by Argali on Mon May 31, 2010 11:03 am, edited 1 time in total.
Image
User avatar
Argali
 
Posts: 625
Joined: Sat Jan 26, 2008 7:38 am

Re: League of Legends

Postby Donut » Mon May 31, 2010 11:02 am

Aw man Argali you're on EU?

And lifesteal only procs on Sivir's first attack not the bounces and since the bounces do a percentage of base damage even on crit, atk speed, lifesteal, damage, and arm pen are the way to go.
Image
Image
User avatar
Donut
 
Posts: 57
Joined: Sat Nov 07, 2009 4:43 pm

Re: League of Legends

Postby Euphoria » Tue Jun 01, 2010 7:12 am

Argali wrote:The n00b heroes tend to be <1k, and the really really awesome ones tend to be 6k. It does encourage you to cough money up to get heroes fast, but I've had iron willpower and only own 3 heroes.

Don't worry about points, until you get to summoner lvl 20, and you need runes that cost a tonne, you get a lot of leftover points tbh. I'm summoner level 19, bought Annie for 1k, Katarina for 3k, Akali for 3k, just tier 1 runes, got 5k+ sitting around atm, about 3 games a day.


The easier to play heroes are cheaper. The harder to play ones are more expensive. Twitch sucks in higher ELO and he's 6300. Ashe is viable in higher ELO (even though she's squishy) and she's only like 450.

Mordekaiser is worth his weight in gold though. I <3 my morde.
Image
Euphoria
 
Posts: 290
Joined: Thu Dec 06, 2007 12:52 pm

Re: League of Legends

Postby Hayz » Tue Jun 01, 2010 9:04 am

Whats your guys thoughts on evelyn if anyone has tried her yet
Deathknights are whores! They're cheap, easy, and spread diseases.
OOM, pulling more trash.
Its alright, I'm a Paladin!
They can't stop us let 'em try, for heavy metal we will die!
Image
User avatar
Hayz
 
Posts: 557
Joined: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:13 am

Re: League of Legends

Postby Argali » Tue Jun 01, 2010 1:16 pm

Evelyn tends to be the choice of retards, and when you see one on your team, you usually lose.

Except that 1 in 100 game where you get a kick ass one who ganks and ganks and ganks <level 6, but that's as rare as volcanic explosions distrupting air travel.
Image
User avatar
Argali
 
Posts: 625
Joined: Sat Jan 26, 2008 7:38 am

Re: League of Legends

Postby Aubade » Tue Jun 01, 2010 4:47 pm

New Champs today. Kickin ass as Master Yi. Saving up for my dear Akali back.
Image
- Awbade Level 85 Human Paladin - <Tsunami> Frostmourne - Retired.
Deliriously wrote:I prefer the, "Lonely Hand Approach" (trademark pending)
User avatar
Aubade
Moderator
 
Posts: 4030
Joined: Sun Jan 18, 2009 12:51 am
Location: Tacoma, WA

Re: League of Legends

Postby Hayz » Tue Jun 01, 2010 7:45 pm

So i shouldnt buy eve to try her out? shes marked as an assassin character, which is what i found I'm good at, I miss akali (last game i played as her i went 22/1/17, got triforce by level 7 :D ) Lately ive been playing teemo a bit, had a successful game or 2, but im still learning how best to use him. Ryze being free doesnt help, he just DESTROYS nearly anything if he catches them with a full combo. What are some other fun assassin champions? I kinda wanna try kat and i really wanna see how shaco is.
Deathknights are whores! They're cheap, easy, and spread diseases.
OOM, pulling more trash.
Its alright, I'm a Paladin!
They can't stop us let 'em try, for heavy metal we will die!
Image
User avatar
Hayz
 
Posts: 557
Joined: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:13 am

Re: League of Legends

Postby Argali » Wed Jun 02, 2010 8:35 am

Don't get eve. Wait till she becomes free to test her, because you might just join the legion of eve-tards who make people leave queues when they see her in your team.

Katarina is a glass cannon, her ult deals a lot of damage, but you can interrupt it, and she's not very good at up front team fights.
Image
User avatar
Argali
 
Posts: 625
Joined: Sat Jan 26, 2008 7:38 am

Re: League of Legends

Postby Euphoria » Wed Jun 02, 2010 9:15 am

Hayz wrote:So i shouldnt buy eve to try her out? shes marked as an assassin character, which is what i found I'm good at, I miss akali (last game i played as her i went 22/1/17, got triforce by level 7 :D ) Lately ive been playing teemo a bit, had a successful game or 2, but im still learning how best to use him. Ryze being free doesnt help, he just DESTROYS nearly anything if he catches them with a full combo. What are some other fun assassin champions? I kinda wanna try kat and i really wanna see how shaco is.


Eve isn't super easy to play and she brings zilch to a team fight. She's bursty with her E but her R isn't as strong as most of the other champs ults; she also lacks any CC other than her puny stun and her autoattack sucks unless you build AD which doesn't scale ANY of her abilities. AP is always the better choice but her ult scales her AS...So go figure. Oracles also tend to shut her down a lot more than they would shaco or twitch. I highly recommend you wait until she's free (as was posted above). She's also quite a bit more powerful on TT than on SR so keep that in mind.

Teemo is hardcore map control with his shrooms. Build him AD/AS though. AP Teemo makes baby jesus cry. Protip on shrooms: Don't place them directly on a wall. Put them out just a bit so that when champs move through bushes or around a corner they'll get hit. If they're right on a wall they won't always trigger.

Ryze is a glass cannon. He'll blow his full combo and leave you at 1/4 health. What you need to know about Ryze is that he's got a good 6-8 seconds before he can do it again. You're at 1/4 health and he's autoattacking. Don't run, blow that motherf***er up. If he's fed then a spirit visage and banshees will shut him down totally and he'll turn into a free kill after his Crystal prison is gone. If you've got a Cho'gath (or another silence champ) he'll be impotent for 3 seconds, which is enough time in a teamfight to blow him up.

Kat is awesome once you figure out how to use her. A friend of mine runs her quite a bit in our pre-mades. I'll set up the ganks with Morde and he'll finish them off with Kat. She deals absolutely retarded damage when she's fed.

A properly played Shaco will make you want to rip out your hair. He's just impossible to frekaing kill.
Image
Euphoria
 
Posts: 290
Joined: Thu Dec 06, 2007 12:52 pm

Re: League of Legends

Postby Hayz » Wed Jun 02, 2010 2:40 pm

There seems to be a large debate over whether to build AP shaco and JiTB/2shiv or AD shaco and deceive/backstab auto-attack, Im probably about 3-4 games away from picking up shaco and giving it a try, see which one i like better, which works better.
Deathknights are whores! They're cheap, easy, and spread diseases.
OOM, pulling more trash.
Its alright, I'm a Paladin!
They can't stop us let 'em try, for heavy metal we will die!
Image
User avatar
Hayz
 
Posts: 557
Joined: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:13 am

Re: League of Legends

Postby Euphoria » Wed Jun 02, 2010 2:57 pm

That's a lot like the debate with Ezreal. I've built him both ways and just prefer AP. I play him more as a support/healer than a carry/assassin though.
Image
Euphoria
 
Posts: 290
Joined: Thu Dec 06, 2007 12:52 pm

Re: League of Legends

Postby Argali » Wed Jun 02, 2010 3:20 pm

AD Ez is more useful earlier in the game when people are laning, since his harassment is stupid good, but not so good late game in team fights, AP Ez seems to be the opposite, so both works.
Image
User avatar
Argali
 
Posts: 625
Joined: Sat Jan 26, 2008 7:38 am

Re: League of Legends

Postby Levantine » Wed Jun 02, 2010 4:10 pm

Ashe is fun.

Also, lolol at all this AP AD and AS shit flying WAY over my head. I should really read the basics stuff more.
User avatar
Levantine
 
Posts: 7367
Joined: Fri Oct 26, 2007 6:48 pm
Location: NQ, Aus

Re: League of Legends

Postby Argali » Wed Jun 02, 2010 4:33 pm

Nothing much really, most stats do what they say. Most abilities scale with Attack Damage, or Ability Power, even though there are some that scale with both, they are rare-ish.

Probably what you need to be told is :

Attack Damage also increases your auto attack damage.
Life steal only works on physical attacks, which means auto attacks, and most melee champions abilities, but there's a lot of melee champions that do magic damage with their abilities, so you need spell vamp.
+Attack speed is based on your base attack speed at level one, e.g. if your attack speed is 0.5 at level one, any item that gives you 50% attack speed will give you 0.25 AS. 100% will give you 0.5 AS. So, champions with a higher base attack speed benefit more from +attack speed things.
Crits do 200% damage.
Image
User avatar
Argali
 
Posts: 625
Joined: Sat Jan 26, 2008 7:38 am

Re: League of Legends

Postby Levantine » Wed Jun 02, 2010 4:35 pm

Oh no no no, it's more the acronyms that fly around. It's not so bad when I sit down and think about it, but lulz.
User avatar
Levantine
 
Posts: 7367
Joined: Fri Oct 26, 2007 6:48 pm
Location: NQ, Aus

Re: League of Legends

Postby Argali » Wed Jun 02, 2010 4:41 pm

Lulz idd at new hero being released and all the n00b buying him and sucking in game because they are trying to l2p their new hero.
Image
User avatar
Argali
 
Posts: 625
Joined: Sat Jan 26, 2008 7:38 am

Re: League of Legends

Postby Levantine » Wed Jun 02, 2010 4:49 pm

Which was the new one again? I cbf keeping up with this madness. :D
User avatar
Levantine
 
Posts: 7367
Joined: Fri Oct 26, 2007 6:48 pm
Location: NQ, Aus

Re: League of Legends

Postby Argali » Wed Jun 02, 2010 5:03 pm

Malhazar, the Prophet of the Void, just got released today, costs 6.3k IP. New hero is new, so anybody playing him is bound to suck.
Image
User avatar
Argali
 
Posts: 625
Joined: Sat Jan 26, 2008 7:38 am

Re: League of Legends

Postby Euphoria » Wed Jun 02, 2010 5:06 pm

Argali wrote:AD Ez is more useful earlier in the game when people are laning, since his harassment is stupid good, but not so good late game in team fights, AP Ez seems to be the opposite, so both works.



Mystic Shot and Parrrrley are the only two skills I can think off offhand that deal ONLY physical damage. Since mystic shot is so cheap and so spammable it's nasty nasty early game when bolstered with a pickaxe (Ginsoo's is the first item I pick up in my hybrid build, and I buy the pick first because of the AD early game).


Lev, you'll get the basic gist of the game pretty quick. I've played a few hundred matches and there's still only a handful of champs I'd walk into a non-pug game with. Just takes time to develop your favorites.

And yes, Ashe is fun. Make sure you learn to use the arrow effectively, getting KB's off of it while in a different lane is lolz.
Image
Euphoria
 
Posts: 290
Joined: Thu Dec 06, 2007 12:52 pm

Re: League of Legends

Postby Arnock » Wed Jun 02, 2010 6:07 pm

Argali wrote:Malhazar, the Prophet of the Void, just got released today, costs 6.3k IP. New hero is new, so anybody playing him is bound to suck.



he sounds like a crazy fun hero to play though, if I had the IP to buy him I would, sadly I'm level 6 without a hero to call my own. I might just go ahead and buy sivir, but I'll experiment with a few more first.
Image
Courage not of this earth in your eyes
Faith from far beyond lies deep inside
User avatar
Arnock
 
Posts: 2775
Joined: Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:36 pm
Location: Everywhere and nowhere

Re: League of Legends

Postby Argali » Wed Jun 02, 2010 6:10 pm

IIRC, new heroes get added to the rotation 2 weeks after they are released. Play him then, oh-ho-ho-ho.

Plus good guides will be up for him on the internets by then, so you won't suck ass.
Image
User avatar
Argali
 
Posts: 625
Joined: Sat Jan 26, 2008 7:38 am

PreviousNext

Return to Other Games

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Delphineas, Yahoo [Bot] and 1 guest

Who is online

In total there are 3 users online :: 2 registered, 0 hidden and 1 guest (based on users active over the past 5 minutes)
Most users ever online was 380 on Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:28 pm

Users browsing this forum: Delphineas, Yahoo [Bot] and 1 guest