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[25] Gunship Battle

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Re: [25] Gunship Battle

Postby theckhd » Thu Dec 10, 2009 3:15 pm

Yeah, here was my suggestion:
theckhd wrote:Funny story about gunship. I discovered a bug in how it's implemented last night that makes gearing trivial.

At least for alliance, there's an arch along the back of the horde ship. If you rocket pack up to that spot, Saurfang will run around to the edge and start climbing the arch to reach you. Since the pack has no cooldown, you can rocket pack back down before he reaches you, forcing him to run all the way back around to the bottom. Do this enough times and the stack drops off (it only took 2 or 3 jumps iirc).

So, potentially, once you have a sufficient threat lead you could just rocket-pack-kite him for the entire encounter, taking very little damage (as in, no melee at all). I assume they'll fix this soon, since it basically trivializes the encounter on the tanking end.


I'm fairly certain they'll fix it though. After I figured it out (I tanked him properly for the first 20 stacks or so before I thought of this), I took basically no damage from him the rest of the fight.
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Re: [25] Gunship Battle

Postby hoho » Fri Dec 11, 2009 2:51 am

To make the DPS on the gunners on enemy ship faster stack shadowpriests: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-z ... 505&e=3844
Our other priest was significantly lower as he chose to just spam sear and mostly on the mobs on our ship while I was almost non-stop dotspamming anything in range on the other ship and using sear as filler. He also managed to pull threat and die due to that. I'm quite sure I could manage much better, especially if I'd use sear glyph.

I would think unholy DK's might also make for quite decent DPS there but they loose time by having to jump around all the time, spriest can just sit there and nuke, VE is more than enough to keep you alive through anything.
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Re: [25] Gunship Battle

Postby Awyndel » Mon Dec 14, 2009 1:50 am

Thnx Theck for "I'm on a boat" :P .

It was a bit tricky for me to avoid being damaged completely. But at some point he'd usually start axe throwing, and then I'd just wait for the stacks to drop to go interrupt him. Bit heavy heals on the bleeds but an extra healer made it much easier.
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Re: [25] Gunship Battle

Postby bashef » Mon Dec 14, 2009 6:08 am

I don't know if this fight got hotfixed or something - we did it on ten man a couple of days ago and I took a reasonable amount of damage from the enemy captain, last night it seemed like a total joke on 25. Remembering the damage he was doing to me on 10 man, I opted to take a holy pally and disc priest to the other ship and a holy priest to deal with any damage to the dps I jumped with, leaving our tree, resto shammy and another holy priest on our ship.

I tanked it in my standard EH gear (about 54k health and 30k armour), seal and judgement of light since threat is a non issue, and we jumped back every time the mage died waiting for stacks to reset before reboarding. Our disc priest disconnected on the pull (oh the irony) and our holy priest's action bars went all buggy and she couldn't jump leaving the pally alone. The damage I took was totally solo-healable and healers on the other ship were bored too, making me think that next week we should just stick healers in the cannons except then there would be nothing for the extra dps to dps.

The fact that the encounter bugged after we completed it however, and we lost all our loot since our ML was on the enemy ship when the encounter ended and the alliance ship was left suspended in mid air miles away from Saurfang's platform, was...irritating :)
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Re: [25] Gunship Battle

Postby Wrathy » Tue Dec 15, 2009 11:26 am

I have noticed that I felt like i took more damage in the 10 man version than the 25 version, with the same gear set. I am not sure exactly why, maybe because I didnt have horn of winter, making the stacks pile up quicker, or if it was just the fact that i got an unlucky streak of hits. Either way, I was having to retreat earlier on the 10 man than on the 25. The pathing bug wasnt helping at all either, as he kept getting behind me.
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Re: [25] Gunship Battle

Postby inthedrops » Tue Dec 15, 2009 11:46 am

Wrathy wrote:I have noticed that I felt like i took more damage in the 10 man version than the 25 version, with the same gear set. I am not sure exactly why, maybe because I didnt have horn of winter, making the stacks pile up quicker, or if it was just the fact that i got an unlucky streak of hits. Either way, I was having to retreat earlier on the 10 man than on the 25. The pathing bug wasnt helping at all either, as he kept getting behind me.


I haven't tanked the captain, but your experience seems like our experience too. They were resetting the stacks for 10 man at under 10 stacks I think. On 25 man they were allowed to go much higher.
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Re: [25] Gunship Battle

Postby loeni » Tue Dec 15, 2009 1:43 pm

Belloc wrote:
Meloree wrote:Well, killing rocketeers prevents them from damaging your ship, and killing axe-throwers prevents them from doing any damage, and they, too, continually respawn as the fight goes on. Plus, it gives your melee something to do.

More importantly is that the rocketeers and axe-throwers get stronger over time if you don't kill them.

Your gunners can kill their rocketeers on the back of their ship while dpsing the enemy ship if they aim the cannons to land on the mobs. There is no need for melee to waste time killing any mobs on the other ship except the sorcerer before coming back over.
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Re: [25] Gunship Battle

Postby Senador » Wed Dec 16, 2009 7:43 am

The encounter was hot fixed so that the captains ranged attacks will now stack his Battle Fury buff. To reset his stacks you have to let him reset, and make sure you have no one near the edge of your own boat when he does so, as his thrown attack can hit you on your own ship and will still build stacks. I think we got him near 50 stacks before I yelled that the next DPS I saw on the edge was going to be booted...
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Re: [25] Gunship Battle

Postby Wrathy » Wed Dec 16, 2009 12:58 pm

Yes, they hot fixed this, those sneaky buggers.

We had him up wards of 50-60 stacks at the end.
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Re: [25] Gunship Battle

Postby theckhd » Wed Dec 16, 2009 9:25 pm

Wrathy wrote:Yes, they hot fixed this, those sneaky buggers.

We had him up wards of 50-60 stacks at the end.

Though you can still kite him around the ship (at least, alliance can). As long as you don't go somewhere he can't path.
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Re: [25] Gunship Battle

Postby elgguns » Thu Dec 17, 2009 7:44 pm

When you land with your rocket pack, any enemy near you takes a 11 sec (might be 12) debuff that slows down their attack and run speeds by 20%. When I'm tanking the enemy captain, I rocketstomp (hit the button for the rocket and place the target rune where I'm standing so I don't actually move) every 10 sec or so to keep that debuff up at all times, extending the amount of time I can tank the boss before he gains too much Battle Fury.
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Re: [25] Gunship Battle

Postby Chicken » Fri Dec 18, 2009 4:26 am

theckhd wrote:
Wrathy wrote:Yes, they hot fixed this, those sneaky buggers.

We had him up wards of 50-60 stacks at the end.

Though you can still kite him around the ship (at least, alliance can). As long as you don't go somewhere he can't path.
Just consistently jumping in circles at the max distance you can using your rocket pack also seems to reduce the speed at which the enemy's captain gains Battle Fury. You'll still get hit from time to time, but they only hit you around half as often when doing this, which is kinda nice.
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Re: [25] Gunship Battle

Postby Kihra » Mon Dec 28, 2009 10:37 am

I'm very curious about the hard mode version of this fight. Unless they give us some reason why retreating from the enemy ship between mages will be harmful, then we don't need to stack avoidance on this fight.

It's disappointing really. Initially I thought our Tier 10 bonus and itemization was going to make it a nice choice for Gunship and Saurfang. Now I find myself wondering if I should even wear tier gear at all. At the 264 level the tier gear is inferior to some offset piece in terms of EH for every slot except for the helm.
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Re: [25] Gunship Battle

Postby Avengeance » Tue Dec 29, 2009 4:49 pm

I dont know if anyone noticed or posted already, but avoided attacks dont actually stop Muradin from gaining stacks, me and my warrior tank was observing today on 10 men and avoidance didnt do anything to stop him.
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Re: [25] Gunship Battle

Postby Kihra » Tue Dec 29, 2009 5:22 pm

Avengeance wrote:I dont know if anyone noticed or posted already, but avoided attacks dont actually stop Muradin from gaining stacks, me and my warrior tank was observing today on 10 men and avoidance didnt do anything to stop him.


Wow, you're right. Looking at the logs as far as I can tell he is just gaining Battle Fury over time rather than when he hits the tank.

Here's a complete log up to 35 stacks for reference. Look at stacks 9 and 10 and stacks 28 and 29.

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[21:04:42.573] High Overlord Saurfang hits  Kihra 14034
[21:04:43.375] High Overlord Saurfang gains Battle Fury from High Overlord Saurfang
[21:04:44.760] High Overlord Saurfang casts Cleave on Kihra
[21:04:45.098] High Overlord Saurfang Cleave Kihra 11857 (A: 3182)
[21:04:46.263] High Overlord Saurfang hits Kihra Dodge
[21:04:47.101] High Overlord Saurfang gains Battle Fury (2) from High Overlord Saurfang
[21:04:47.901] High Overlord Saurfang casts Cleave on Kihra
[21:04:48.446] High Overlord Saurfang Cleave Kihra 11272 (B: 2176)
[21:04:52.489] High Overlord Saurfang hits Kihra Dodge
[21:04:53.169] High Overlord Saurfang gains Battle Fury (3) from High Overlord Saurfang
[21:04:54.384] High Overlord Saurfang hits Kihra 14588
[21:04:56.146] High Overlord Saurfang casts Cleave on Kihra
[21:04:56.329] High Overlord Saurfang Cleave Kihra 9436 (A: 3182, B: 2176)
[21:04:57.960] High Overlord Saurfang hits Kihra 14509 (B: 2176)
[21:04:58.634] High Overlord Saurfang gains Battle Fury (4) from High Overlord Saurfang
[21:04:59.765] High Overlord Saurfang casts Cleave on Kihra
[21:04:59.765] High Overlord Saurfang Cleave Kihra Miss
[21:05:01.577] High Overlord Saurfang hits Kihra 12541 (B: 2176)
[21:05:02.261] High Overlord Saurfang gains Battle Fury (5) from High Overlord Saurfang
[21:05:03.279] High Overlord Saurfang hits Kihra Miss
[21:05:05.202] High Overlord Saurfang casts Cleave on Kihra
[21:05:05.524] High Overlord Saurfang Cleave Kihra 15833 (A: 3860)
[21:05:06.953] High Overlord Saurfang hits Kihra 17851
[21:05:07.525] High Overlord Saurfang gains Battle Fury (6) from High Overlord Saurfang
[21:05:08.770] High Overlord Saurfang hits Kihra 16838 (B: 2176)
[21:05:10.563] High Overlord Saurfang casts Cleave on Kihra
[21:05:10.694] High Overlord Saurfang Cleave Kihra 10997 (A: 3860, B: 2176)
[21:05:12.582] High Overlord Saurfang hits Kihra 17628
[21:05:13.074] High Overlord Saurfang gains Battle Fury (7) from High Overlord Saurfang
[21:05:14.085] High Overlord Saurfang hits Kihra 12332 (B: 2176)
[21:05:15.824] High Overlord Saurfang casts Cleave on Kihra
[21:05:15.956] High Overlord Saurfang Cleave Kihra 17382 (B: 2176)
[21:05:17.650] High Overlord Saurfang hits Kihra 9025 (A: 3182, B: 2176)
[21:05:18.389] High Overlord Saurfang gains Battle Fury (8) from High Overlord Saurfang
[21:05:19.466] High Overlord Saurfang casts Cleave on Kihra
[21:05:19.660] High Overlord Saurfang Cleave Kihra 16049 (B: 2176)
[21:05:21.311] High Overlord Saurfang hits Kihra 15942 (B: 2176)
[21:05:22.136] High Overlord Saurfang gains Battle Fury (9) from High Overlord Saurfang
[21:05:23.073] High Overlord Saurfang hits Kihra Parry
[21:05:24.800] High Overlord Saurfang hits Kihra Dodge
[21:05:25.542] High Overlord Saurfang gains Battle Fury (10) from High Overlord Saurfang
[21:05:26.695] High Overlord Saurfang hits Kihra 20740
[21:05:28.557] High Overlord Saurfang hits Kihra Parry
[21:05:29.202] High Overlord Saurfang gains Battle Fury (11) from High Overlord Saurfang
[21:05:30.307] High Overlord Saurfang hits Kihra Miss
[21:05:32.035] High Overlord Saurfang casts Cleave on Kihra
[21:05:32.439] High Overlord Saurfang Cleave Kihra 20166 (A: 3182)
[21:05:33.832] High Overlord Saurfang hits Kihra 18172 (B: 2176)
[21:05:34.427] High Overlord Saurfang gains Battle Fury (12) from High Overlord Saurfang
[21:05:35.787] High Overlord Saurfang casts Cleave on Kihra
[21:05:35.787] High Overlord Saurfang Cleave Kihra Dodge
[21:05:37.541] High Overlord Saurfang hits Kihra 10519 (A: 9457, B: 2176)
[21:05:38.197] High Overlord Saurfang gains Battle Fury (13) from High Overlord Saurfang
[21:05:39.388] High Overlord Saurfang hits Kihra 22765
[21:05:41.158] High Overlord Saurfang hits Kihra 23051 (B: 2176)
[21:05:41.705] High Overlord Saurfang gains Battle Fury (14) from High Overlord Saurfang
[21:05:42.933] High Overlord Saurfang casts Cleave on Kihra
[21:05:43.304] High Overlord Saurfang Cleave Kihra 19247 (A: 3182, B: 2176)
[21:05:44.775] High Overlord Saurfang hits Kihra 21961 (B: 2176)
[21:05:45.369] High Overlord Saurfang gains Battle Fury (15) from High Overlord Saurfang
[21:05:46.608] High Overlord Saurfang hits Kihra 23594 (B: 2176)
[21:05:48.349] High Overlord Saurfang casts Cleave on Kihra
[21:05:48.349] High Overlord Saurfang Cleave Kihra Miss
[21:05:48.807] High Overlord Saurfang gains Battle Fury (16) from High Overlord Saurfang
[21:05:50.130] High Overlord Saurfang hits Kihra 23695 (B: 2176)
[21:05:50.835] High Overlord Saurfang gains Battle Fury (17) from High Overlord Saurfang
[21:05:51.965] High Overlord Saurfang hits Kihra Dodge
[21:05:53.760] High Overlord Saurfang casts Cleave on Kihra
[21:05:54.117] High Overlord Saurfang Cleave Kihra 28868 (B: 2176)
[21:05:55.536] High Overlord Saurfang hits Kihra 28338 (B: 2176)
[21:05:56.116] High Overlord Saurfang gains Battle Fury (18) from High Overlord Saurfang
[21:05:57.430] High Overlord Saurfang casts Cleave on Kihra
[21:05:57.750] High Overlord Saurfang Cleave Kihra 29896
[21:05:59.316] High Overlord Saurfang hits Kihra 26689 (B: 2176)
[21:06:00.071] High Overlord Saurfang gains Battle Fury (19) from High Overlord Saurfang
[21:06:01.115] High Overlord Saurfang hits Kihra 31054 (B: 2176)
[21:06:02.960] High Overlord Saurfang hits Kihra Dodge
[21:06:03.663] High Overlord Saurfang gains Battle Fury (20) from High Overlord Saurfang
[21:06:04.748] High Overlord Saurfang hits Kihra 33432 (B: 2176)
[21:06:06.553] High Overlord Saurfang hits Kihra Miss
[21:06:07.338] High Overlord Saurfang gains Battle Fury (21) from High Overlord Saurfang
[21:06:08.414] High Overlord Saurfang hits Kihra Parry
[21:06:10.285] High Overlord Saurfang casts Cleave on Kihra
[21:06:10.697] High Overlord Saurfang Cleave Kihra 28387 (A: 3200, B: 2176)
[21:06:11.893] High Overlord Saurfang hits Kihra Dodge
[21:06:12.671] High Overlord Saurfang gains Battle Fury (22) from High Overlord Saurfang
[21:06:13.559] High Overlord Saurfang hits Kihra 24583 (A: 10536)
[21:06:15.157] High Overlord Saurfang hits Kihra Parry
[21:06:16.006] High Overlord Saurfang gains Battle Fury (23) from High Overlord Saurfang
[21:06:16.898] High Overlord Saurfang casts Cleave on Kihra
[21:06:17.079] High Overlord Saurfang Cleave Kihra 24032 (A: 10300, B: 2176)
[21:06:18.562] High Overlord Saurfang hits Kihra Dodge
[21:06:19.424] High Overlord Saurfang gains Battle Fury (24) from High Overlord Saurfang
[21:06:20.424] High Overlord Saurfang hits Kihra 20693 (A: 8869, B: 2176)
[21:06:22.045] High Overlord Saurfang hits Kihra Dodge
[21:06:22.585] High Overlord Saurfang gains Battle Fury (25) from High Overlord Saurfang
[21:06:23.867] High Overlord Saurfang hits Kihra 27566 (B: 2176)
[21:06:24.617] High Overlord Saurfang gains Battle Fury (26) from High Overlord Saurfang
[21:06:25.874] High Overlord Saurfang hits Kihra Parry
[21:06:28.029] High Overlord Saurfang casts Cleave on Kihra
[21:06:28.029] High Overlord Saurfang Cleave Kihra Parry
[21:06:30.003] High Overlord Saurfang hits Kihra 22550 (A: 6275)
[21:06:30.624] High Overlord Saurfang gains Battle Fury (27) from High Overlord Saurfang
[21:06:32.155] High Overlord Saurfang hits Kihra 39382 (A: 236, B: 2176)
[21:06:32.681] High Overlord Saurfang gains Battle Fury (28) from High Overlord Saurfang
[21:06:34.373] High Overlord Saurfang hits Kihra Dodge
[21:06:35.039] High Overlord Saurfang gains Battle Fury (29) from High Overlord Saurfang
[21:06:36.536] High Overlord Saurfang casts Cleave on Kihra
[21:06:36.754] High Overlord Saurfang Cleave Kihra 17352 (B: 2176)
[21:06:38.435] High Overlord Saurfang casts Cleave on Kihra
[21:06:38.435] High Overlord Saurfang Cleave Kihra Miss
[21:06:39.017] High Overlord Saurfang gains Battle Fury (30) from High Overlord Saurfang
[21:06:40.167] High Overlord Saurfang hits Kihra 18998 (B: 2176)
[21:06:41.888] High Overlord Saurfang hits Kihra Dodge
[21:06:42.739] High Overlord Saurfang gains Battle Fury (31) from High Overlord Saurfang
[21:06:43.780] High Overlord Saurfang hits Kihra 17574 (A: 4112, B: 2176)
[21:06:45.598] High Overlord Saurfang hits Kihra 16409 (B: 2176)
[21:06:46.409] High Overlord Saurfang gains Battle Fury (32) from High Overlord Saurfang
[21:06:47.395] High Overlord Saurfang casts Cleave on Kihra
[21:06:47.395] High Overlord Saurfang Cleave Kihra Parry
[21:06:49.193] High Overlord Saurfang hits Kihra 40285 (A: 462, B: 2176)
[21:06:49.885] High Overlord Saurfang gains Battle Fury (33) from High Overlord Saurfang
[21:06:51.380] High Overlord Saurfang hits Kihra Dodge
[21:06:53.482] High Overlord Saurfang casts Rending Throw on Kihra
[21:06:53.482] High Overlord Saurfang gains Battle Fury (34) from High Overlord Saurfang
[21:06:54.194] Kihra afflicted by Rending Throw from High Overlord Saurfang
[21:06:54.194] High Overlord Saurfang Rending Throw Kihra Absorb (3053)
[21:06:55.426] High Overlord Saurfang casts Rending Throw on Kihra
[21:06:56.076] High Overlord Saurfang gains Battle Fury (35) from High Overlord Saurfang
[21:06:56.193] High Overlord Saurfang Rending Throw Kihra 3058
[21:06:57.216] High Overlord Saurfang Rending Throw Kihra 1211 (A: 381)
[21:07:00.195] High Overlord Saurfang Rending Throw Kihra Absorb (1592)
[21:07:03.262] High Overlord Saurfang Rending Throw Kihra Absorb (1592)
[21:07:06.046] High Overlord Saurfang Rending Throw Kihra 1342 (A: 250)
[21:07:09.091] High Overlord Saurfang Rending Throw Kihra Absorb (1592)
[21:07:12.049] High Overlord Saurfang Rending Throw Kihra Absorb (1769)
[21:07:12.199] Kihra's Rending Throw fades
[21:07:12.201] High Overlord Saurfang's Battle Fury fades
[21:07:32.604] High Overlord Saurfang hits Kihra 12002
[21:07:33.376] High Overlord Saurfang gains Battle Fury from High Overlord Saurfang
[21:07:34.167] High Overlord Saurfang hits Kihra Miss
[21:07:36.618] High Overlord Saurfang hits Kihra Parry
[21:07:37.300] High Overlord Saurfang gains Battle Fury (2) from High Overlord Saurfang
[21:07:38.206] High Overlord Saurfang hits Kihra 7798 (A: 4112, B: 2158)
[21:07:39.855] High Overlord Saurfang hits Kihra 13139 (B: 2158)
[21:07:40.564] High Overlord Saurfang gains Battle Fury (3) from High Overlord Saurfang
[21:07:41.474] High Overlord Saurfang hits Kihra Miss
[21:07:43.051] High Overlord Saurfang hits Kihra 10572 (B: 2158)
[21:07:43.728] High Overlord Saurfang gains Battle Fury (4) from High Overlord Saurfang
[21:07:44.735] High Overlord Saurfang hits Kihra 11135 (B: 2158)
[21:07:46.405] High Overlord Saurfang hits Kihra 13576 (B: 2158)
[21:07:46.955] High Overlord Saurfang gains Battle Fury (5) from High Overlord Saurfang
[21:07:48.198] High Overlord Saurfang hits Kihra 13960 (B: 2158)
[21:07:50.011] High Overlord Saurfang hits Kihra 16489 (B: 2158)
[21:07:50.578] High Overlord Saurfang gains Battle Fury (6) from High Overlord Saurfang
[21:07:51.846] High Overlord Saurfang casts Cleave on Kihra
[21:07:52.242] High Overlord Saurfang Cleave Kihra 13398 (B: 2158)
[21:07:53.670] High Overlord Saurfang hits Kihra 15390 (B: 2158)
[21:07:54.162] High Overlord Saurfang gains Battle Fury (7) from High Overlord Saurfang
[21:07:55.486] High Overlord Saurfang casts Cleave on Kihra
[21:07:55.852] High Overlord Saurfang Cleave Kihra 14871 (B: 2158)
[21:07:57.563] High Overlord Saurfang hits Kihra Parry
[21:07:58.146] High Overlord Saurfang gains Battle Fury (8) from High Overlord Saurfang
[21:07:59.490] High Overlord Saurfang casts Cleave on Kihra
[21:07:59.794] High Overlord Saurfang Cleave Kihra 18551 (B: 2158)
[21:08:01.541] High Overlord Saurfang hits Kihra 16701 (B: 2158)
[21:08:02.153] High Overlord Saurfang gains Battle Fury (9) from High Overlord Saurfang
[21:08:03.506] High Overlord Saurfang casts Cleave on Kihra
[21:08:03.506] High Overlord Saurfang Cleave Kihra Parry
[21:08:05.159] High Overlord Saurfang hits Kihra Dodge
[21:08:05.787] High Overlord Saurfang gains Battle Fury (10) from High Overlord Saurfang
[21:08:07.062] High Overlord Saurfang hits Kihra 17334 (B: 2158)
[21:08:08.856] High Overlord Saurfang hits Kihra Miss
[21:08:09.456] High Overlord Saurfang gains Battle Fury (11) from High Overlord Saurfang
[21:08:10.744] High Overlord Saurfang hits Kihra Parry
[21:08:12.516] High Overlord Saurfang hits Kihra Dodge
[21:08:12.965] High Overlord Saurfang gains Battle Fury (12) from High Overlord Saurfang
[21:08:14.274] High Overlord Saurfang hits Kihra 16410 (B: 2158)
[21:08:14.973] High Overlord Saurfang gains Battle Fury (13) from High Overlord Saurfang
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