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Question about SoV being used by both Tank and DPS

Postby Paulewaug » Mon Dec 21, 2009 1:31 pm

I seem to think that I read a post within the last few months about how SoV coming from different sources "interact" with each other.


It seemed to be to the effect that - Scenario:

Tankadin and Retadin in group together.

Boss fight, both Paladins are using SoV.

Prot stacks SoV to 5, Ret has 2-3 stacks.

Effect = ?
5 stacks + 3 stacks
5 stacks only
3 stacks only

TL;DR -
Q - Would Ret using SoV reduce its effectiveness for Prot?

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Re: Question about SoV being used by both Tank and DPS

Postby Fridmarr » Mon Dec 21, 2009 1:33 pm

I believe there was some interaction at one time when it came from different sources, but I thought that that was generally considered a bug and had been removed. Any chance you can link where you read that?
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Re: Question about SoV being used by both Tank and DPS

Postby Chicken » Mon Dec 21, 2009 3:11 pm

Nowadays it should always be using your amount of stacks to determine everything, I believe the patch that made Onyxia level 80 fixed the old issue where it'd use the lowest stack to determine seal procs and the like.
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Re: Question about SoV being used by both Tank and DPS

Postby Arcand » Mon Dec 21, 2009 3:22 pm

WoWhead doesn't seem to have any info about this, and WoWwiki just has the patch notes, no analysis or insight.
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Re: Question about SoV being used by both Tank and DPS

Postby Paulewaug » Mon Dec 21, 2009 3:30 pm

Cool, thanks.

I scanned through posts back to early September and didn't find anything about it.

And since it seems like if this ever did happen it should now be fixed I am going to not worry about it.

Let the stacking of Paladin DoTs commence!

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Re: Question about SoV being used by both Tank and DPS

Postby ulushnar » Mon Dec 21, 2009 4:58 pm

I'm pretty sure was either one of the iterations of the Ulduar patches (3.1.x) or 3.2.1 where the change was made. It used to be that a Ret Paladin with low stacks could use the higher stacks from a Prot Pally to determine procs. It gave them a bit less wind-up time in PVE, and I can remember my Ret Pally mate being very excited about being in a raid with Ulu.
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Re: Question about SoV being used by both Tank and DPS

Postby Snake-Aes » Tue Dec 22, 2009 4:17 am

Currently, the two SoVs are independent. They only affect their owners.
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Re: Question about SoV being used by both Tank and DPS

Postby theckhd » Tue Dec 22, 2009 2:08 pm

ulushnar wrote:I'm pretty sure was either one of the iterations of the Ulduar patches (3.1.x) or 3.2.1 where the change was made. It used to be that a Ret Paladin with low stacks could use the higher stacks from a Prot Pally to determine procs. It gave them a bit less wind-up time in PVE, and I can remember my Ret Pally mate being very excited about being in a raid with Ulu.

It was actually a bit more complicated than that - each player's Judgement and SoV procs were using the lowest stack of Holy Vengeance on the mob to determine damage.

Which meant that a Prot paladin got nerfed damage while the Ret built his stack, and the Ret got an extra full-strength hit or two in before his first stack was applied. It was never a large effect though, and was fixed pretty quickly in a patch.
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