[25 Heroic] Anub'arak

by **Nadir** » Sat Sep 12, 2009 4:33 am

I know it seems impressive, but they're trivializing the adds due to a "bug" yet again. I see these kills as little different than exploiting Holy Wrath. You're doing essentially the same thing (zero to low damage from adds), except it *requires* certain OT classes rather than merely three-four Paladins (which you still need anyway for P2).

Notice what kind of off-tank Paragon and Premo used. You'll never see a Bear or DK. Why? Block value.

The adds work like this:
A 4k unblocked hit will be multiplied by 300% to 12k.
A 1k blocked hit (3k BV, IMO reasonable) will be multiplied by 300% to 3k.

It seems that with ~3-4kish BV you essentially take zero damage from adds that otherwise hit you for 12k unblocked with the full +300% damage taken buff.

The other key to the puzzle is to wear gear that makes you passively unhitable (for us, this will be without Holy Shield because 4 adds + 300% attack speed = lol 8 charges). Since the adds are level 82 you will need 101.6% avoidance + block.

Given that this strategy basically says fuck you to DK/Bear OTs, I don't see it being considered legitimate by Blizzard in the long run. I foresee a bug fix so that BV is applied after +% damage taken debuffs rather than beforehand.

by **fuzzygeek** » Sat Sep 12, 2009 10:21 am

Yeah, I can't see how they're not going to nerf this. Compare:

Code: Select all: [21:38:15.983] Nerubian Burrower hits Shadowyn Block [21:38:16.802] Nerubian Burrower hits Shadowyn Parry [21:38:16.802] Nerubian Burrower hits Shadowyn Miss [21:38:16.802] Shadowyn afflicted by Expose Weakness (4) from Nerubian Burrower [21:38:16.802] Shadowyn afflicted by Expose Weakness (5) from Nerubian Burrower [21:38:20.542] Nerubian Burrower hits Shadowyn Block [21:38:21.325] Nerubian Burrower hits Shadowyn Dodge [21:38:21.622] Nerubian Burrower hits Shadowyn Dodge [21:38:21.622] Shadowyn afflicted by Expose Weakness (6) from Nerubian Burrower [21:38:22.401] Nerubian Burrower hits Shadowyn Dodge [21:38:22.526] Nerubian Burrower hits Shadowyn Block [21:38:23.509] Nerubian Burrower hits Shadowyn Miss [21:38:23.732] Nerubian Burrower hits Shadowyn Dodge [21:38:23.743] Shadowyn afflicted by Expose Weakness (7) from Nerubian Burrower [21:38:24.554] Nerubian Burrower hits Shadowyn Block [21:38:24.847] Nerubian Burrower hits Shadowyn Dodge [21:38:25.646] Nerubian Burrower hits Shadowyn Parry [21:38:25.661] Shadowyn afflicted by Expose Weakness (8) from Nerubian Burrower [21:38:25.958] Nerubian Burrower hits Shadowyn Block [21:38:26.694] Nerubian Burrower hits Shadowyn Dodge [21:38:26.863] Shadowyn afflicted by Expose Weakness (9) from Nerubian Burrower [21:38:26.956] Nerubian Burrower hits Shadowyn Block [21:38:27.674] Nerubian Burrower hits Shadowyn Miss [21:38:28.064] Shadowyn afflicted by Expose Weakness (10) from Nerubian Burrower [21:38:30.404] Nerubian Burrower hits Shadowyn Block [21:38:30.996] Nerubian Burrower hits Shadowyn Miss [21:38:31.296] Shadowyn's Expose Weakness is refreshed by Nerubian Burrower [21:38:31.640] Nerubian Burrower hits Shadowyn Miss [21:38:32.068] Nerubian Burrower hits Shadowyn Block [21:38:32.845] Nerubian Burrower hits Shadowyn Parry [21:38:32.934] Shadowyn's Expose Weakness is refreshed by Nerubian Burrower [21:38:33.279] Nerubian Burrower hits Shadowyn Block [21:38:33.822] Nerubian Burrower hits Shadowyn Block [21:38:34.124] Shadowyn's Expose Weakness is refreshed by Nerubian Burrower [21:38:34.504] Nerubian Burrower hits Shadowyn Dodge [21:38:34.913] Shadowyn's Expose Weakness is refreshed by Nerubian Burrower [21:38:34.975] Nerubian Burrower hits Shadowyn Block [21:38:36.124] Shadowyn's Expose Weakness is refreshed by Nerubian Burrower [21:38:36.129] Shadowyn's Expose Weakness is refreshed by Nerubian Burrower [21:38:36.201] Nerubian Burrower hits Shadowyn Dodge [21:38:36.301] Nerubian Burrower hits Shadowyn Block [21:38:37.212] Nerubian Burrower hits Shadowyn Dodge [21:38:37.274] Nerubian Burrower hits Shadowyn Parry [21:38:37.333] Shadowyn's Expose Weakness is refreshed by Nerubian Burrower [21:38:38.525] Nerubian Burrower hits Shadowyn Block [21:38:38.532] Nerubian Burrower hits Shadowyn Miss [21:38:39.298] Nerubian Burrower hits Shadowyn Parry [21:38:39.314] Shadowyn's Expose Weakness is refreshed by Nerubian Burrower [21:38:39.468] Nerubian Burrower hits Shadowyn Block [21:38:40.254] Nerubian Burrower hits Shadowyn Block [21:38:40.497] Nerubian Burrower hits Shadowyn Dodge [21:38:40.528] Shadowyn's Expose Weakness is refreshed by Nerubian Burrower [21:38:41.315] Nerubian Burrower hits Shadowyn Block

To:

Code: Select all: [20:30:53.350] Veda afflicted by Expose Weakness from Nerubian Burrower [20:30:57.778] Nerubian Burrower hits Veda 4019 [20:30:58.935] Veda afflicted by Expose Weakness (2) from Nerubian Burrower [20:30:59.671] Nerubian Burrower hits Veda 5156 [20:31:00.084] Nerubian Burrower hits Veda 1579 (B: 2540) [20:31:00.560] Veda afflicted by Expose Weakness (3) from Nerubian Burrower [20:31:00.570] Nerubian Burrower hits Veda 4632 [20:31:00.945] Veda afflicted by Expose Weakness (4) from Nerubian Burrower [20:31:01.352] Nerubian Burrower hits Veda 4837 (B: 1179) [20:31:01.695] Veda afflicted by Expose Weakness (5) from Nerubian Burrower [20:31:01.709] Nerubian Burrower hits Veda 2962 (B: 2358) [20:31:02.130] Veda afflicted by Expose Weakness (6) from Nerubian Burrower [20:31:02.397] Nerubian Burrower hits Veda Dodge [20:31:02.926] Veda afflicted by Expose Weakness (7) from Nerubian Burrower [20:31:06.592] Nerubian Burrower hits Veda Dodge [20:31:06.592] Nerubian Burrower hits Veda 10199 [20:31:07.376] Veda afflicted by Expose Weakness (8) from Nerubian Burrower [20:31:07.782] Nerubian Burrower hits Veda 9398 [20:31:07.782] Nerubian Burrower hits Veda Parry [20:31:08.588] Veda afflicted by Expose Weakness (9) from Nerubian Burrower [20:31:09.009] Nerubian Burrower hits Veda 10469 [20:31:09.009] Nerubian Burrower hits Veda Dodge [20:31:09.727] Veda afflicted by Expose Weakness (10) from Nerubian Burrower [20:31:10.195] Nerubian Burrower hits Veda Parry [20:31:10.195] Nerubian Burrower hits Veda 5834 (B: 1270) [20:31:11.012] Veda's Expose Weakness is refreshed by Nerubian Burrower [20:31:11.382] Nerubian Burrower hits Veda Dodge [20:31:11.382] Nerubian Burrower hits Veda Parry [20:31:12.598] Nerubian Burrower hits Veda 9362 [20:31:12.598] Nerubian Burrower hits Veda Dodge [20:31:13.429] Veda's Expose Weakness is refreshed by Nerubian Burrower [20:31:13.831] Nerubian Burrower hits Veda Miss [20:31:14.938] Nerubian Burrower hits Veda 11634 [20:31:15.828] Veda's Expose Weakness is refreshed by Nerubian Burrower [20:31:16.950] Nerubian Burrower hits Veda 8948 [20:31:17.846] Veda's Expose Weakness is refreshed by Nerubian Burrower [20:31:18.128] Nerubian Burrower hits Veda Dodge [20:31:18.604] Nerubian Burrower hits Veda Dodge [20:31:19.348] Nerubian Burrower hits Veda 11141 [20:31:19.823] Nerubian Burrower hits Veda 4973 (B: 1270) [20:31:20.226] Veda's Expose Weakness is refreshed by Nerubian Burrower [20:31:21.022] Veda's Expose Weakness is refreshed by Nerubian Burrower [20:31:21.037] Nerubian Burrower hits Veda 10600 [20:31:22.207] Veda's Expose Weakness is refreshed by Nerubian Burrower [20:31:22.207] Nerubian Burrower hits Veda Parry [20:31:23.424] Nerubian Burrower hits Veda Dodge [20:31:28.197] Nerubian Burrower hits Veda Dodge [20:31:30.635] Nerubian Burrower hits Veda 9910 [20:31:31.474] Veda's Expose Weakness is refreshed by Nerubian Burrower [20:31:33.087] Nerubian Burrower hits Veda 8722 [20:31:33.914] Veda's Expose Weakness is refreshed by Nerubian Burrower [20:31:35.408] Nerubian Burrower hits Veda 7724 [20:31:35.907] Nerubian Burrower hits Veda 10566

These are on 10h; I imagine more BV will be required for 25h. I was running about 3.5k bv.

Website · by **Aubade** » Sat Sep 12, 2009 7:19 pm

fuzzygeek wrote:Yeah, I can't see how they're not going to nerf this. Compare:
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[21:38:15.983] Nerubian Burrower hits Shadowyn Block [21:38:16.802] Nerubian Burrower hits Shadowyn Parry [21:38:16.802] Nerubian Burrower hits Shadowyn Miss [21:38:16.802] Shadowyn afflicted by Expose Weakness (4) from Nerubian Burrower [21:38:16.802] Shadowyn afflicted by Expose Weakness (5) from Nerubian Burrower [21:38:20.542] Nerubian Burrower hits Shadowyn Block [21:38:21.325] Nerubian Burrower hits Shadowyn Dodge [21:38:21.622] Nerubian Burrower hits Shadowyn Dodge [21:38:21.622] Shadowyn afflicted by Expose Weakness (6) from Nerubian Burrower [21:38:22.401] Nerubian Burrower hits Shadowyn Dodge [21:38:22.526] Nerubian Burrower hits Shadowyn Block [21:38:23.509] Nerubian Burrower hits Shadowyn Miss [21:38:23.732] Nerubian Burrower hits Shadowyn Dodge [21:38:23.743] Shadowyn afflicted by Expose Weakness (7) from Nerubian Burrower [21:38:24.554] Nerubian Burrower hits Shadowyn Block [21:38:24.847] Nerubian Burrower hits Shadowyn Dodge [21:38:25.646] Nerubian Burrower hits Shadowyn Parry [21:38:25.661] Shadowyn afflicted by Expose Weakness (8) from Nerubian Burrower [21:38:25.958] Nerubian Burrower hits Shadowyn Block [21:38:26.694] Nerubian Burrower hits Shadowyn Dodge [21:38:26.863] Shadowyn afflicted by Expose Weakness (9) from Nerubian Burrower [21:38:26.956] Nerubian Burrower hits Shadowyn Block [21:38:27.674] Nerubian Burrower hits Shadowyn Miss [21:38:28.064] Shadowyn afflicted by Expose Weakness (10) from Nerubian Burrower [21:38:30.404] Nerubian Burrower hits Shadowyn Block [21:38:30.996] Nerubian Burrower hits Shadowyn Miss [21:38:31.296] Shadowyn's Expose Weakness is refreshed by Nerubian Burrower [21:38:31.640] Nerubian Burrower hits Shadowyn Miss [21:38:32.068] Nerubian Burrower hits Shadowyn Block [21:38:32.845] Nerubian Burrower hits Shadowyn Parry [21:38:32.934] Shadowyn's Expose Weakness is refreshed by Nerubian Burrower [21:38:33.279] Nerubian Burrower hits Shadowyn Block [21:38:33.822] Nerubian Burrower hits Shadowyn Block [21:38:34.124] Shadowyn's Expose Weakness is refreshed by Nerubian Burrower [21:38:34.504] Nerubian Burrower hits Shadowyn Dodge [21:38:34.913] Shadowyn's Expose Weakness is refreshed by Nerubian Burrower [21:38:34.975] Nerubian Burrower hits Shadowyn Block [21:38:36.124] Shadowyn's Expose Weakness is refreshed by Nerubian Burrower [21:38:36.129] Shadowyn's Expose Weakness is refreshed by Nerubian Burrower [21:38:36.201] Nerubian Burrower hits Shadowyn Dodge [21:38:36.301] Nerubian Burrower hits Shadowyn Block [21:38:37.212] Nerubian Burrower hits Shadowyn Dodge [21:38:37.274] Nerubian Burrower hits Shadowyn Parry [21:38:37.333] Shadowyn's Expose Weakness is refreshed by Nerubian Burrower [21:38:38.525] Nerubian Burrower hits Shadowyn Block [21:38:38.532] Nerubian Burrower hits Shadowyn Miss [21:38:39.298] Nerubian Burrower hits Shadowyn Parry [21:38:39.314] Shadowyn's Expose Weakness is refreshed by Nerubian Burrower [21:38:39.468] Nerubian Burrower hits Shadowyn Block [21:38:40.254] Nerubian Burrower hits Shadowyn Block [21:38:40.497] Nerubian Burrower hits Shadowyn Dodge [21:38:40.528] Shadowyn's Expose Weakness is refreshed by Nerubian Burrower [21:38:41.315] Nerubian Burrower hits Shadowyn Block

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[20:30:53.350] Veda afflicted by Expose Weakness from Nerubian Burrower [20:30:57.778] Nerubian Burrower hits Veda 4019 [20:30:58.935] Veda afflicted by Expose Weakness (2) from Nerubian Burrower [20:30:59.671] Nerubian Burrower hits Veda 5156 [20:31:00.084] Nerubian Burrower hits Veda 1579 (B: 2540) [20:31:00.560] Veda afflicted by Expose Weakness (3) from Nerubian Burrower [20:31:00.570] Nerubian Burrower hits Veda 4632 [20:31:00.945] Veda afflicted by Expose Weakness (4) from Nerubian Burrower [20:31:01.352] Nerubian Burrower hits Veda 4837 (B: 1179) [20:31:01.695] Veda afflicted by Expose Weakness (5) from Nerubian Burrower [20:31:01.709] Nerubian Burrower hits Veda 2962 (B: 2358) [20:31:02.130] Veda afflicted by Expose Weakness (6) from Nerubian Burrower [20:31:02.397] Nerubian Burrower hits Veda Dodge [20:31:02.926] Veda afflicted by Expose Weakness (7) from Nerubian Burrower [20:31:06.592] Nerubian Burrower hits Veda Dodge [20:31:06.592] Nerubian Burrower hits Veda 10199 [20:31:07.376] Veda afflicted by Expose Weakness (8) from Nerubian Burrower [20:31:07.782] Nerubian Burrower hits Veda 9398 [20:31:07.782] Nerubian Burrower hits Veda Parry [20:31:08.588] Veda afflicted by Expose Weakness (9) from Nerubian Burrower [20:31:09.009] Nerubian Burrower hits Veda 10469 [20:31:09.009] Nerubian Burrower hits Veda Dodge [20:31:09.727] Veda afflicted by Expose Weakness (10) from Nerubian Burrower [20:31:10.195] Nerubian Burrower hits Veda Parry [20:31:10.195] Nerubian Burrower hits Veda 5834 (B: 1270) [20:31:11.012] Veda's Expose Weakness is refreshed by Nerubian Burrower [20:31:11.382] Nerubian Burrower hits Veda Dodge [20:31:11.382] Nerubian Burrower hits Veda Parry [20:31:12.598] Nerubian Burrower hits Veda 9362 [20:31:12.598] Nerubian Burrower hits Veda Dodge [20:31:13.429] Veda's Expose Weakness is refreshed by Nerubian Burrower [20:31:13.831] Nerubian Burrower hits Veda Miss [20:31:14.938] Nerubian Burrower hits Veda 11634 [20:31:15.828] Veda's Expose Weakness is refreshed by Nerubian Burrower [20:31:16.950] Nerubian Burrower hits Veda 8948 [20:31:17.846] Veda's Expose Weakness is refreshed by Nerubian Burrower [20:31:18.128] Nerubian Burrower hits Veda Dodge [20:31:18.604] Nerubian Burrower hits Veda Dodge [20:31:19.348] Nerubian Burrower hits Veda 11141 [20:31:19.823] Nerubian Burrower hits Veda 4973 (B: 1270) [20:31:20.226] Veda's Expose Weakness is refreshed by Nerubian Burrower [20:31:21.022] Veda's Expose Weakness is refreshed by Nerubian Burrower [20:31:21.037] Nerubian Burrower hits Veda 10600 [20:31:22.207] Veda's Expose Weakness is refreshed by Nerubian Burrower [20:31:22.207] Nerubian Burrower hits Veda Parry [20:31:23.424] Nerubian Burrower hits Veda Dodge [20:31:28.197] Nerubian Burrower hits Veda Dodge [20:31:30.635] Nerubian Burrower hits Veda 9910 [20:31:31.474] Veda's Expose Weakness is refreshed by Nerubian Burrower [20:31:33.087] Nerubian Burrower hits Veda 8722 [20:31:33.914] Veda's Expose Weakness is refreshed by Nerubian Burrower [20:31:35.408] Nerubian Burrower hits Veda 7724 [20:31:35.907] Nerubian Burrower hits Veda 10566

These are on 10h; I imagine more BV will be required for 25h. I was running about 3.5k bv.

the BV change on 25 Heroic is HUGE.

If my holy-shield charges get ate too fast i'll take 17-18k per hit with 10 debuffs, with block i take 3-4k with 10 stacks.

by **Nadir** » Sat Sep 12, 2009 8:38 pm

Yeah. You can look at Premo's video and based on Xav's HP he's clearly stacking block rating up to unhittable status.

Website · by **Aubade** » Sat Sep 12, 2009 9:47 pm

Nadir wrote:Yeah. You can look at Premo's video and based on Xav's HP he's clearly stacking block rating up to unhittable status.

Time to hit Naxx25 for all that sick BR gear.

by **Joanadark** » Sat Sep 12, 2009 10:26 pm

Omg i freaking LOVE the addd control rotation sequence I came up with! Its so much fun.
have to spec 3/17/51 just for anub though. ><

by **Nadir** » Sat Sep 12, 2009 10:31 pm

Why 3/17/51?

Website · by **Aubade** » Sat Sep 12, 2009 10:35 pm

Nadir wrote:Why 3/17/51?

Brekkie's a ret paladin. I'M the prot paladin

by **Nadir** » Sat Sep 12, 2009 10:38 pm

Aubade wrote:
Nadir wrote:Why 3/17/51?

Brekkie's a ret paladin. I'M the prot paladin

Ah.

by **Nadir** » Mon Sep 14, 2009 10:58 pm

Multiple sub 5% wipes tonight. We'll get it Tuesday or Wednesday if they don't nerf unhittable / block value overnight. :/

Website · by **Aubade** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 12:33 am

blahh we are working on P3. quite a few P3 wipes tonight, Need to get passive unhittable >.>

by **kram** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 3:02 am

by **Lisson** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 3:52 am

Started working on the passive unhittable.. but coming short at 90% (with kings/horn up)

anyone have a link of what they are currently using for their set?

Website · by **Aubade** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 4:07 am

Lisson wrote:Started working on the passive unhittable.. but coming short at 90% (with kings/horn up)

anyone have a link of what they are currently using for their set?

Once we kill the boss i'll post my set, fully buffed my set will have me at 105.5%

by **kram** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 6:12 am

Lisson wrote:Started working on the passive unhittable.. but coming short at 90% (with kings/horn up)

anyone have a link of what they are currently using for their set?

rawr gearset
http://rapidshare.com/files/280399361/bv.xml.html

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