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[Ret] Libram Swapping?

Postby Aubade » Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:55 pm

Hmm, So I was browsing the MATLAB thread and saw this discussion on Libram Swapping in our rotation for optimal mitigation through the use of 2-3 different librams.
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It got me thinking, What if we used this for ret? Ex: start rotation with Divine Storm and DS Libram equipped. (Razorscale Libram, name escapes me at the moment.) have macro after divine storm to switch to Furious Glad Libram, Crusader strike for extra AP -> Switch to DS libram -> continue rotation -> Divine Storm -> Switch to CS Libram -> continue rotation etc etc.


Thoughts? My math skills are WAY below what would be required to figure all the math on that what with GCD losses and whatnot but what if we did it during a CD clash or would it be any benefit due to shorter CD on CS reducing the number of CD clashes?
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Re: [Ret] Libram Swapping?

Postby Candiru » Mon Aug 03, 2009 12:43 am

I think all the missed swings would vastly outweigh any benefit.
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Re: [Ret] Libram Swapping?

Postby Aubade » Mon Aug 03, 2009 12:50 am

That's what I was afraid of, some math on it might not be bad though. To put my mind at ease.
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Re: [Ret] Libram Swapping?

Postby Joanadark » Mon Aug 03, 2009 2:25 am

swapping librams resets your swing timer.
it will never be a DPS gain to libram swap unless than came out with two masssively rediculously overpowered librams with unimaginable stats.
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Re: [Ret] Libram Swapping?

Postby Candiru » Mon Aug 03, 2009 3:41 am

It can be a TPS gain for prot paladins, since we tend to have fast weapons and white damage contributes little to threat.

For ret paladins with slow weapons, I can't see libram swapping working at all.
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Re: [Ret] Libram Swapping?

Postby Aubade » Mon Aug 03, 2009 4:45 am

Theoretically we could time it with white swings? swing -> instant switch = MAYBE .1-2 seconds lost on white swings, and i think the librams would def counterbalance this and then some.

Also what are the exact rules on GCD and Libram swapping? Can you swap while there's a GCD in progress? Will swapping trigger the GCD? could you program a mod to swap librams Mid-GCD so you aren't affected?
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Re: [Ret] Libram Swapping?

Postby Candiru » Mon Aug 03, 2009 5:29 am

Librams swapping restarts the GCD, as well as your swing timer.

This means to avoid loosing DPS you would need to have a GCD at the same time as your swing. This won't happen very often. The amount of time you spend with both libram effects up is going to be counteracted by the large amount of time you have the inferior of the two librams active.
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