25-man FL with only 10 people?

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Re: 25-man FL with only 10 people?

Postby Worldie » Tue Jul 21, 2009 9:58 am

The difference from kiting is that with that positioning, he will NEVER get to touch either of the vehicles, and they don't even move.

It exploits the fact he wont select the same vehicle 2 times in a row.
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Re: 25-man FL with only 10 people?

Postby moduspwnens » Tue Jul 21, 2009 10:06 am

Worldie wrote:The difference from kiting is that with that positioning, he will NEVER get to touch either of the vehicles, and they don't even move.

It exploits the fact he wont select the same vehicle 2 times in a row.


It also trivializes the encounter, which appears to be (more or less) the determining factor on whether or not something is ban-worthy.
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Re: 25-man FL with only 10 people?

Postby fafhrd » Tue Jul 21, 2009 10:32 am

So, uh, start it with 3 vehicles, and after one of them gets killed, I guess it's OK. I mean you could start with 10 vehicles and if 8 drivers are bad, you'll be down to 2 that are so far apart that he'll never make it from one to the other before switching.

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Re: 25-man FL with only 10 people?

Postby Avengeance » Tue Jul 21, 2009 5:30 pm

I would call it clever use of encounter mechanics rather than exploit - if blizz made the arena that size, they should well know the maths. Or lemme guess, they dont even test their encounters, because most of them still have bugs in it. If they want to stop people doing it they could just reduce the arena size or change the shape.
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Re: 25-man FL with only 10 people?

Postby Kelaan » Wed Jul 22, 2009 2:41 pm

Safe: use 3 demos, and kite them as normal. You have At Least As Much damage as with two demos, and aren't exploiting his range/speed limitations.
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Re: 25-man FL with only 10 people?

Postby baleogthefierce » Thu Jul 23, 2009 3:04 pm

Even better, 5 demos with 5 gunners just filling pyrite and DPSing the boss when you are full.
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Re: 25-man FL with only 10 people?

Postby Avengeance » Fri Jul 24, 2009 4:52 am

I was just testing last night, we managed to kill 25+1 with 8 ppl (4 demos), was very easy. Gonna try 2 towers on another alt :) although I suspect we ned 10 ppl for that.
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Re: 25-man FL with only 10 people?

Postby tbolt » Fri Jul 24, 2009 1:34 pm

I've been wanting to try this with my guild mostly because i'm still using slayer of the lifeless and have been very unlucky with weapons. Just out of curiosity though, do you just use the 5 demolishers for everything or clear trash first using a mix and then switch people to an all demolisher group.
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Re: 25-man FL with only 10 people?

Postby abinning » Mon Jul 27, 2009 10:33 am

Avengeance wrote:I was just testing last night, we managed to kill 25+1 with 8 ppl (4 demos), was very easy. Gonna try 2 towers on another alt :) although I suspect we ned 10 ppl for that.


Which tower?
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Re: 25-man FL with only 10 people?

Postby Avengeance » Mon Jul 27, 2009 2:56 pm

Hodir by far easiest to leave up. We actually did it again with 7 ppl this time (3 demo with passengers and 1 engine driver).
Gonna try Hodir + Thorim next reset with 8 ppl.
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