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[10/25] I Believe This Cache Is Rare

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Re: [10/25] I Believe This Cache Is Rare

Postby fuzzygeek » Sun May 03, 2009 1:02 pm

Off the top of my head, betting it's the spell-stealable buff on the mobs in Freya's room that was nerfed recently -- probably due to this.
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Re: [10/25] I Believe This Cache Is Rare

Postby Panzerdin » Sun May 03, 2009 1:03 pm

Ain't spellstealable no more :D
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Re: [10/25] I Believe This Cache Is Rare

Postby Seloei » Sun May 03, 2009 1:26 pm

on 10 man the block have 40k health, the priest will probably get freed due to the aoe effect of some spells. Also quite sure she helps heal and smites the boss, it's still dps even if it's just 4.5k every 3s, thats an extra 300-1.5k raid dps? and some spot heals from time to time, to help out the single healer.

Was just wondering how helpful DG+DS is on the first frozen blows, he will quite probably do 2 of those in between 2 minutes.
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Re: [10/25] I Believe This Cache Is Rare

Postby Kethion » Mon May 04, 2009 7:45 am

Seloei wrote:on 10 man the block have 40k health, the priest will probably get freed due to the aoe effect of some spells. Also quite sure she helps heal and smites the boss, it's still dps even if it's just 4.5k every 3s, thats an extra 300-1.5k raid dps? and some spot heals from time to time, to help out the single healer.

Was just wondering how helpful DG+DS is on the first frozen blows, he will quite probably do 2 of those in between 2 minutes.
It seems that the imbue damage is completely avoidable if you negate the entire physical portion of the attack though blocking and shields. In other words: no physical damage taken = no imbue damage taken. The last time I tanked this I took 2 hits from the imbue effect during the entire fight.

Parse is here for reference: http://wowwebstats.com/jwxt4rqgjxvvc?s=185590-206343

This would be good to know because if this is true, disc priests could very well be the best healer for this achievement.
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Re: [10/25] I Believe This Cache Is Rare

Postby Passionario » Tue May 05, 2009 5:12 am

Ulduar Tuning Tweaks 05/04/09
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Hodir

* Hodir hard mode timer increased from 2 minutes to 3 minutes. This hotfix will be applied during maintenance for both US and EU (respectively).
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Re: [10/25] I Believe This Cache Is Rare

Postby Chunes » Tue May 05, 2009 8:58 am

so does that one extra minute make it any less mathematically impossible to beat the timer sans flowerpower-esque exploits?
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Re: [10/25] I Believe This Cache Is Rare

Postby Belloc » Tue May 05, 2009 9:23 am

Considering the fact that the achievement was completed when it was 2:30, yes... it is now considered to be "easily" completable by top guilds.
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Re: [10/25] I Believe This Cache Is Rare

Postby Seloei » Tue May 05, 2009 11:38 am

If it was 8m health on 10 man then sustaiend dps from each needed was
Before, with 8 dps it was 8.3k dps each, sustained
After, with 8 dps it's 5.6k. 7 dps it's 6.3k each. 6 dps it's 7.4k each

On 10 man, you can roll with a usual 3+1+6 combo on this fight, and still beat the timer if you do it right

on 25 man, 32m health and an average of 1 tank, 5 healers, 19 dps.
9.3k dps each, which is still quite high to beat the timer.

Now, after the nerf, the top guilds can kill him with a few hours of wipes on 25 man, to figure out how it's supposed to be done. On 10 man, most can do it, as long as they can avoid geting hit by the ice blocks and spread the buffs around.
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Re: [10/25] I Believe This Cache Is Rare

Postby semp » Fri May 08, 2009 4:49 am

We beat the 10 man version last night by mistake. 1 tank, 2 healer, 7 dps. We happen to just beat the timer by 1 second :o We had 5 dps just over 6k, 1 at 7k and a rogue pulling almost 9.5k.
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Re: [10/25] I Believe This Cache Is Rare

Postby Tieran » Fri May 08, 2009 11:51 am

semp wrote:We beat the 10 man version last night by mistake. 1 tank, 2 healer, 7 dps. We happen to just beat the timer by 1 second :o We had 5 dps just over 6k, 1 at 7k and a rogue pulling almost 9.5k.


Damn rogues :P

On 25 man its still no joke.

We keep hodir still, have a nifty addon which tells us who has Storm Cloud and they then run around spreading it to all the ranged who just sit in the light beams near fires and pull of riduculous 13k+ dps.

10% was our best try but then we had a few trialists in who were only just pushing out more dps than the MT, on sunday he will die ;)
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Re: [10/25] I Believe This Cache Is Rare

Postby Taragon » Sat May 09, 2009 9:54 pm

Aye, 10 man is a joke now (considering he was killable on 10 man before the patch).


As for the 25 man it is very doable now. We got our kill after around 3 hours of attempts on 25(and 2 hours of waiting on lag Tichondrius lag -.-)

As a tank I was trying to position melee for the fires on the right side of the room and get them near the moonlights(I've since found out that melee attacks don't stack singe >.<). Wore 2p 7.5 and 2p 8.5 for threat. Defiantly a fun fight to tank. [10k tps]

A shadow priest released a video from my guild if anyone is interested in watching 13k+dps shadowpriest.

Video: I would say that cache was rare

P.S. Go go go, get your 10 man Hodir shield!
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Re: [10/25] I Believe This Cache Is Rare

Postby itankforcash » Tue May 12, 2009 1:21 am

Mages are by far the best dps for this fight.

We took 5 mages all outputting 15k-20k dps
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Re: [10/25] I Believe This Cache Is Rare

Postby Jacopo » Wed May 20, 2009 12:15 pm

Tieran wrote:We keep hodir still, have a nifty addon which tells us who has Storm Cloud and they then run around spreading it to all the ranged who just sit in the light beams near fires and pull of riduculous 13k+ dps.


Can you provide me with a name of or link to this addon plz?
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Re: [10/25] I Believe This Cache Is Rare

Postby Falibard » Wed May 20, 2009 12:30 pm

Jacopo wrote:
Tieran wrote:We keep hodir still, have a nifty addon which tells us who has Storm Cloud and they then run around spreading it to all the ranged who just sit in the light beams near fires and pull of riduculous 13k+ dps.


Can you provide me with a name of or link to this addon plz?
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Re: [10/25] I Believe This Cache Is Rare

Postby Tieran » Sun May 24, 2009 9:19 am

When i say nifty I mean we had a Java coder re-write an addon called DebuffWatcher2 - so that you could show people who had gotten buffs as well as debuffs.

It still works - It just notifies you personally rather if you individually get the buff. I will ask him how he sorted it for you.
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