[25] Thaddius with lots of hunters?

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[25] Thaddius with lots of hunters?

Postby Isetnefret » Mon Apr 06, 2009 9:26 am

We have been running Naxx 25 with lots of hunters (8 in a single raid) lately.

When we get to Thaddius, they complain that they have to stand far enough from the boss to do ranged damage, and do not get the benefit from the stacked charges.

How far is the range of the buffs? Is there an alternate way to position the (+) and (-) groups that is more friendly to hunters?
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Re: [25] Thaddius with lots of hunters?

Postby Meloree » Mon Apr 06, 2009 9:32 am

If the group stands at Max melee range (as they should), the hunters can be in range of the debuff stacks (buff stacks?) and still do ranged damage. The positioning does take some getting used to, but it's completely doable.

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Re: [25] Thaddius with lots of hunters?

Postby Proudfoot » Fri Apr 10, 2009 4:20 pm

hunters can do ranged damage from 5 yards out... only reason I can see them standing further out is because of "sniper training". Having the charge buffs is much more important and if they are not getting charges they need to move in. You can get both though if your melee dps stay at max melee range, he has a large hitbox.
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Re: [25] Thaddius with lots of hunters?

Postby Isetnefret » Mon Apr 13, 2009 7:41 am

What's the absolute fewest number of people, assuming everyone has best gear available, that you could feasibly kill Thaddius 25 with?
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Re: [25] Thaddius with lots of hunters?

Postby Origon » Mon Apr 13, 2009 7:45 am

That would also depend on the class/spec/skill level of the people. Some of the specs can currently push ridiculous dps numbers (think 7.5k with just raid buffs, no thaddius charges)
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Re: [25] Thaddius with lots of hunters?

Postby Isetnefret » Mon Apr 13, 2009 9:04 am

Well, I figure with 10 DPS that can normally do 4500 dps, 2 healers able to toss out a damage spell here and there for 1000 dps, and 2 tanks which can push 2000 dps, you could down Thaddius 25 in 357 seconds, barely beating his enrage.

That's 14 people....if you have some that can normally do 7500 dps, you should be able to do it with less than 10 total people.
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Re: [25] Thaddius with lots of hunters?

Postby Worldie » Mon Apr 13, 2009 5:09 pm

Isetnefret wrote:What's the absolute fewest number of people, assuming everyone has best gear available, that you could feasibly kill Thaddius 25 with?

With decent gear from Naxx 25, Thaddius is doable in 20 by going close. I'd say 18 or 19 should also manage. Less is practically impossible, not enough DPS (a raid has 4+ healers and 2+ tanks, not just DPS, remind it). Noone can really do 7500 sustained DPS for 6 minutes, that kind of DPS is only possible in Patchwerk speed runs.

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