Cookie Cutter??

[Dorvan]

I don't think I understand your response, are you quoting somewhere?

The only relevance is that I have a habit of correcting certain mangled English phrases ("all intensive purposes" is another one that I find really grating)....small grammar and spelling errors on the internet don't bother me near as much

Regarding you build, the main point of going 18 into Ret is to pick up Crusade. You therefore want to drop Seal of Command and 2 points from either PoJ or Conviction to pick it up. The rest of the build is fine.

[Blar]

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?paladin ... rsion=9757

Is what I am thinking for 3.1, but looking for feedback.

[Venoseth]

Your build

Is what I am thinking for 3.1, but looking for feedback.

Looks really good. Only differences from my build are that I took D Sac / DG instead of 3/5 Divinity and 3/3 HotC because I don't always have a ret around. ^^

[Echo]

There's a decent argument to be made that crusade is better for your survival than divinity.

How so?

[moduspwnens]

There's a decent argument to be made that crusade is better for your survival than divinity.

How so?

They argue that the boss dying that little bit faster is more likely to save you than the extra % healing.

[Doktah]

There's a decent argument to be made that crusade is better for your survival than divinity.

How so?

They argue that the boss dying that little bit faster is more likely to save you than the extra % healing.

bah, thats just because their healers must suck balls so the less healing they do the better...honestly I think its just preference...there really is no wrong or right build