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ImpDev+Swift Retri work together? Does divinity affect DS?

Postby Firann » Wed Apr 01, 2009 4:26 pm

I am gonna put this or very similar spec as my secondary build when 3.1 comes out.

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?paladin ... rsion=9742

My main question is in regards to the imp Dev and Swift retribution. Both now grant their effects on what ever aura, so do they work together?

I see this build as very group beneficial since it increases healing when no ToL is around, and it has the 3% haste palas provide now anyway.

Comments and any build change suggestions are welcome.

p.s Also does anyone know if divinity increase Divine storm heals aswell? I would think it would but just checking what it affects
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Re: Imp Dev + Swift Retri working together?

Postby Grehn|Skipjack » Wed Apr 01, 2009 4:30 pm

That is... a good question. Anyone with PTR access want to test this out?
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Re: ImpDev+Swift Retri work together? Does divinity affect DS?

Postby majiben » Wed Apr 01, 2009 5:28 pm

Giving up PoJ is too much imo.
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Re: ImpDev+Swift Retri work together? Does divinity affect DS?

Postby Dazhbog » Wed Apr 01, 2009 11:04 pm

Don't have to, you can move the 2 points from iBoM there. Bit of a loss, but there's usually someone else who can cast it.
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Re: ImpDev+Swift Retri work together? Does divinity affect DS?

Postby Selinaria » Wed Apr 01, 2009 11:15 pm

Dazhbog wrote:Don't have to, you can move the 2 points from iBoM there. Bit of a loss, but there's usually someone else who can cast it.


This^

Really isn't anything wrong with the build. I wouldn't take toughness though.

Would probably end up with http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?paladin ... rsion=9742

Stoicism helps for when you do get stunned (rare in pve I know but oh well) since you do not have Divine purpose and Guardian's Favor can help out the raid a bit. Divine Sacrifice is a decent CD combined with Divine Shield as ret.

Basically this becomes the ultimate support spec as ret while really not sacrificing any personal dps.

(and BTW, this should probably be in the off-spec forum for clarity)
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Re: ImpDev+Swift Retri work together? Does divinity affect DS?

Postby Elsie » Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:04 am

It's honestly easier for a holy paladin to pick up since they'll be going for Improved Sacred Shield (tm) anyway.
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Re: ImpDev+Swift Retri work together? Does divinity affect DS?

Postby Grehn|Skipjack » Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:12 am

So now we're suddenly expecting every Healadin to drop sub-speccing Ret's +crit for a stronger shield? Before you were a terribad for even suggesting Holy skip Ret for Kings, that was only 5 points in.
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Re: ImpDev+Swift Retri work together? Does divinity affect DS?

Postby Sabindeus » Thu Apr 02, 2009 3:50 pm

Grehn|Skipjack wrote:So now we're suddenly expecting every Healadin to drop sub-speccing Ret's +crit for a stronger shield? Before you were a terribad for even suggesting Holy skip Ret for Kings, that was only 5 points in.


Well I certainly do not expect any PvE Holy Paladin to go down Prot. I think it might work out for PVP though.
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Re: ImpDev+Swift Retri work together? Does divinity affect DS?

Postby majiben » Thu Apr 02, 2009 5:19 pm

With a 4 piece T8, subspec prot isn't so bad for a 10 man holy paladin.
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