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Re: Gyphs in 3.1

Postby knaughty » Wed Mar 25, 2009 6:33 pm

Well, DP glyph is "awesome verging on OP" then. I thought they'd removed that from GbtL when they redid SA.

Oddly, that makes the rest of our glyphs more interesting, as it leaves us with two glyph slots and 3-4 decent options.

I'll have to go re-write the "Stop going OOM you tards" part of my FAQ.

Did they fix the targeting bug with DP refreshment? Can you switch targets now?
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Re: Gyphs in 3.1

Postby majiben » Wed Mar 25, 2009 6:43 pm

Hmm the DP glyph is stronger for survival than the LoO in most cases.
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Re: Gyphs in 3.1

Postby knaughty » Wed Mar 25, 2009 7:02 pm

Majiben wrote:Hmm the DP glyoh is stronger for survival than the LoO in most cases.


(1) Librams suck. We covered that.

(2) LoO is a TPS piece, IMO. Yes, it's also our "best" tanking piece from a "not dying" perspective.... but it is still pretty crap for that function.
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Re: Gyphs in 3.1

Postby Sarkan-ZdC » Thu Mar 26, 2009 8:42 am

0/53/18 Specc 1: DP, Hammer (+1 Target) + x (SoV maybe)

Survival Spec (still not sure if I go Holy/Prot/Ret or like 60 prot rest ret) DP, Hand of Salv + SoV or Shield Throw

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Re: Gyphs in 3.1

Postby Solare » Thu Mar 26, 2009 12:10 pm

Knaughty wrote:
Majiben wrote:Hmm the DP glyoh is stronger for survival than the LoO in most cases.


(1) Librams suck. We covered that.

(2) LoO is a TPS piece, IMO. Yes, it's also our "best" tanking piece from a "not dying" perspective.... but it is still pretty crap for that function.

To be fair, the other classes that use relics aren't in much better shape. Arguably, the best enhancement shaman totem is either from pvp or badges of justice. But I'll agree, we prot pallies don't have a lot of options when it comes to our relic slot. But I just wanted to illustrate that it isn't a paladin-only problem.
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Re: Glyphs in 3.1

Postby Araiken » Thu Mar 26, 2009 12:28 pm

I am thinking of going with:
Seal of vengeance
Hammer of the righteous
Divine plea

I will miss my glyph of Avenger's Shield. Pulling with 8k crits was awesome. Oh well.
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Re: Gyphs in 3.1

Postby knaughty » Thu Mar 26, 2009 2:17 pm

Solare wrote:To be fair, the other classes that use relics aren't in much better shape.

Good point...
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Shaman, Paladin, DKs get crap. Can't recall if Druid ones are good or bad.
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Re: Glyphs in 3.1

Postby moduspwnens » Thu Mar 26, 2009 5:07 pm

The best tanking relic for Druids is currently the level 70 one from Heroic badges.
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Re: Gyphs in 3.1

Postby knaughty » Thu Mar 26, 2009 5:38 pm

Knaughty wrote:Did they fix the targeting bug with DP refreshment? Can you switch targets now?
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Re: Gyphs in 3.1

Postby Palizangetsu » Thu Mar 26, 2009 6:48 pm

Dorvan wrote:I'm planning on running DP + the top 2 TPS glyphs (I never really liked the RD glyph, and won't miss it). Based on current numbers, that amounts to:

Divine Plea
SoV
Judgment


Yea I think I'm going with these 3 glyphs also and I feel the same about the RD glyph, we have 2 taunts if one fails we still have the other and there isn't many times I really need to use RD.
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Re: Glyphs in 3.1

Postby steadypal » Thu Mar 26, 2009 6:51 pm

think im going with

SOV
DP


and the 3rd HMM

judgement does so little for us, please help decide lol
HOTR hitting 4x, thats SEX,,, hmm might get that one
RD, idk, have to see the mobs in ulduar first..
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Re: Glyphs in 3.1

Postby Palizangetsu » Thu Mar 26, 2009 7:22 pm

steadypal wrote:think im going with

SOV
DP


and the 3rd HMM

judgement does so little for us, please help decide lol
HOTR hitting 4x, thats SEX,,, hmm might get that one
RD, idk, have to see the mobs in ulduar first..


Judgement is one of the best for boss TPS so it does something but the HotR is also a very good option for offtanking and adds. It's honestly in my opinion the only other glyph I would use instead of the judgment one.
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Re: Glyphs in 3.1

Postby theckhd » Thu Mar 26, 2009 9:06 pm

Palizangetsu wrote:Judgement is one of the best for boss TPS so it does something but the HotR is also a very good option for offtanking and adds. It's honestly in my opinion the only other glyph I would use instead of the judgment one.

The Judgement glyph is a distant 2nd to either of the Seal glyphs (SoV/SoR) when it comes to DPS. It's by far our weakest DPS glyph (not counting Exorcism, since it's not part of our rotation).
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Re: Glyphs in 3.1

Postby Palizangetsu » Thu Mar 26, 2009 9:20 pm

theckhd wrote:
Palizangetsu wrote:Judgement is one of the best for boss TPS so it does something but the HotR is also a very good option for offtanking and adds. It's honestly in my opinion the only other glyph I would use instead of the judgment one.

The Judgement glyph is a distant 2nd to either of the Seal glyphs (SoV/SoR) when it comes to DPS. It's by far our weakest DPS glyph (not counting Exorcism, since it's not part of our rotation).


I know and I said I would be taking the SoV glyph and so did the other person, I was basing it on what glyphs were left over and SoR would be a wast of a glyph if u have SoV glyph and SoV is the superior seal. So based on that steadypal was taking SoV and DP glyphs I was just pointing out that for single target threat judgment was the best pretty much left.
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Re: Glyphs in 3.1

Postby steadypal » Thu Mar 26, 2009 11:28 pm

Palizangetsu wrote:
theckhd wrote:
Palizangetsu wrote:Judgement is one of the best for boss TPS so it does something but the HotR is also a very good option for offtanking and adds. It's honestly in my opinion the only other glyph I would use instead of the judgment one.

The Judgement glyph is a distant 2nd to either of the Seal glyphs (SoV/SoR) when it comes to DPS. It's by far our weakest DPS glyph (not counting Exorcism, since it's not part of our rotation).


I know and I said I would be taking the SoV glyph and so did the other person, I was basing it on what glyphs were left over and SoR would be a wast of a glyph if u have SoV glyph and SoV is the superior seal. So based on that steadypal was taking SoV and DP glyphs I was just pointing out that for single target threat judgment was the best pretty much left.



yes and im down to either judgement glyph or HOTR hitting 4mobs sex glyph....
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