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Postby Eizen » Fri Mar 13, 2009 1:48 pm

So how is that set for hit rating?
Will I reach 8%?
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Postby majiben » Fri Mar 13, 2009 1:50 pm

No. Nor should it.
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Postby taekwonv » Tue Mar 17, 2009 9:25 pm

So I shouldn't worry about hit rating too much...but is there a minimum??? if not why list the melancholy sabatons instead of iron spring jumpers
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Postby tinalt » Tue Mar 17, 2009 11:09 pm

taekwonv wrote:So I shouldn't worry about hit rating too much...but is there a minimum??? if not why list the melancholy sabatons instead of iron spring jumpers


the hit cap is 8% or around 262 hit rating iirc, but because of the way that ret is currently designed, you will increase your dps more by gearing for straight strength and letting hit/expertise come as they may.
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Postby Questioner » Wed Mar 18, 2009 6:05 am

taekwonv wrote:So I shouldn't worry about hit rating too much...but is there a minimum??? if not why list the melancholy sabatons instead of iron spring jumpers


Actually, the OP shows iron spring jumpers as the top to use in a current max dps gear set. It shows Melancholy Sabatons as Best In Slot in a vacuum. I am going to recheck Dawnwalkers, picked them up last night.

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Postby Questioner » Wed Mar 18, 2009 7:53 am

Doing the math again with the 2.3 spreadsheet put Dawnwalkers as the #1 boot, so I will add that as an option. For me, the numbers were as follow:

Melancholy: 5868
Iron-Spring: 5874
Dawnwalkers: 5886

I apologize for not catching this earlier. It must have been the leather vs plate clouded my view.

Keep in mind Haste, Expertise and Armor Pen are getting upgraded in 3.1, but so much is changing for ret that it is difficult to tell what we will be top dps pre-Ulduar until they figure out what they want.
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Postby Candiru » Wed Mar 18, 2009 10:28 am

with a +15% boost in crusader strike damage in 3.1, will the PvP gloves (+5% crusader strike bonus) come close? or is the fact you then have to wear the helm too bad?
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Postby Questioner » Wed Mar 18, 2009 11:19 am

Candiru wrote:with a +15% boost in crusader strike damage in 3.1, will the PvP gloves (+5% crusader strike bonus) come close? or is the fact you then have to wear the helm too bad?


First off, there are so many changes, the list will have to be completely redone come 3.1. We know they aren't done yet as well.

The bonus is about a ~18 dps increase in a single target fight.

As a direct comparison, you would lose ~18 dps off Top Set by switching the gloves. This doesn't include the loss on the helm. So....No, certainly not worth it.
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Postby majiben » Wed Mar 18, 2009 11:22 am

How does http://ptr.wowhead.com/?item=39706 rank for JCes? Assuming the socket bonus but only accrediting 16 str to the gem slot directly.
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Postby Dorvan » Wed Mar 18, 2009 11:32 am

Majiben wrote:How does http://ptr.wowhead.com/?item=39706 rank for JCes? Assuming the socket bonus but only accrediting 16 str to the gem slot directly.


Counting the gem plus socket bonus as a total of 20 Str I still have it coming in 4th among plate boots, 15 DPS behind Iron Spring Jumpers.
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Postby majiben » Wed Mar 18, 2009 12:14 pm

Shame, I was hoping to not have to change it. Well at his moment I have more hit than I know what to do with.
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Postby Bacon » Sun Mar 22, 2009 1:59 am

Sorry if this has been covered elsewhere but I figured a BIS list should include a libram. I'm wondering how you would rank my current Venture Co. libram?
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Postby tinalt » Sun Mar 22, 2009 4:43 am

Bacon wrote:Sorry if this has been covered elsewhere but I figured a BIS list should include a libram. I'm wondering how you would rank my current Venture Co. libram?


If you're talking about http://www.wowhead.com/?item=38362 then it's one of the best ret librams in the game right now. I'd definitely use this one over the badge one. I could be wrong but I think it's even better then the one that drops from Noth.

The current BIS libram for ret is http://www.wowhead.com/?item=42852 but you need 1200 arena points and a 1930 personal rating to get it.
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Re: [Ret-PvE] 3.0.8 Best In Slot Gear List for No-Bonus Horde

Postby Elsie » Mon Mar 23, 2009 12:36 am

The current BIS libram for ret is http://www.wowhead.com/?item=42852 but you need 1200 arena points and a 1930 personal rating to get it.

Yep, I <3 mine. 1930 isn't too bad. The Crusader strike one from naxx will become a lot stronger in 3.1, though. CS is going to 137.5% damage, so that 135ish damage is slightly more significant.

Though I heard the pvp libram is becoming 10 seconds which wipes the floor with anything else available.
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