[Ret-PvE] Two gear lists to evaluate

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[Ret-PvE] Two gear lists to evaluate

Postby Baelor » Fri Mar 13, 2009 8:18 am

Quests and cheap crafts
BoE's and expensive crafts

Let me know if I missed anything that fits the themes!
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Postby Doogiehowser » Fri Mar 13, 2009 8:44 am

A couple things that I found that could be of use.

Kaluak Rep Polearm

http://www.wowhead.com/?item=44053

It's an engineering only kind of thing but I thought the ...of the Tiger weren't bad. (+67 str/+67 agi)

http://www.wowhead.com/?item=44742

BS only chestpiece

http://www.wowhead.com/?item=41189

Icecrown Quest

http://www.wowhead.com/?item=43945

They aren't great but they provide some additional options for people.

Thanks for the lists though. All plate DPS should look at these.
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Postby fafhrd » Fri Mar 13, 2009 9:16 am

I am totally using these lists for ye olde warrior alt (and eventually ye newe pally alt of course), thanks Baelor :)
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Postby Baelor » Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:21 am

Doogiehowser wrote:A couple things that I found that could be of use.

Kaluak Rep Polearm

http://www.wowhead.com/?item=44053

It's an engineering only kind of thing but I thought the ...of the Tiger weren't bad. (+67 str/+67 agi)

http://www.wowhead.com/?item=44742

BS only chestpiece

http://www.wowhead.com/?item=41189

Icecrown Quest

http://www.wowhead.com/?item=43945

They aren't great but they provide some additional options for people.

Thanks for the lists though. All plate DPS should look at these.

I'll add the Kalu'ak polearm.

Can you post the stats on the Blackened Breastplate of the Vault? Wowwiki doesn't have it and Wowhead is blocked at work.

The profession-only stuff I'm not including - I can't assume that the reader is a blacksmith/engineer/jewelcrafter/whatever, and that's too many contingencies to account for. The items I list are meant to be readily available to anyone.
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Postby Doogiehowser » Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:30 am

Blackened Breastplate of the Vault

1580 Armor
+68 Strength
+66 Stamina
Durability 115 / 115
Equip: Improves critical strike rating by 45 (1.22% @ L77)

No worries on the professions. I understand what you're trying to go for Baelor.

The BS chest is a pretty good one though.

For those of us at maintankadin, the BS only chestpiece is as follows:

Chestplate of Conquest

2043 Armor
+88 Strength
+57 Stamina
Durability 135 / 135
Requires Level 78
Requires Armorsmith
Equip: Improves critical strike rating by 38 (0.96% @ L78).
Equip: Improves haste rating by 25 (0.88% @ L78).
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Postby Dorvan » Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:38 am

I'm not sure it's worth mentioning, as the 2 bold rubies required make it more of an "expensive" item, but

http://www.wowhead.com/?item=33173

actually beats out the oracles and savage saronite shoulders with 2x16 Str gems

Oddly, http://www.wowhead.com/?item=44188 is actually a pretty good starter DPS cloak, beating out Illskar's for my stat weightings at least.

http://www.wowhead.com/?item=39805 is a good chestpiece (I've got it just above whalebone). http://www.wowhead.com/?item=41353 is also solid.

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Postby Baelor » Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:38 am

Doogiehowser wrote:Blackened Breastplate of the Vault

1580 Armor
+68 Strength
+66 Stamina
Durability 115 / 115
Equip: Improves critical strike rating by 45 (1.22% @ L77)

No worries on the professions. I understand what you're trying to go for Baelor.

The BS chest is a pretty good one though.

For those of us at maintankadin, the BS only chestpiece is as follows:

Chestplate of Conquest

2043 Armor
+88 Strength
+57 Stamina
Durability 135 / 135
Requires Level 78
Requires Armorsmith
Equip: Improves critical strike rating by 38 (0.96% @ L78).
Equip: Improves haste rating by 25 (0.88% @ L78).

That Blackened Breastplate of the Vault is better than the Battleplate of Unheard Ovation, methinks.

I added the polearm and quest breastplate.
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Postby Doogiehowser » Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:41 am

Also, the link on your Beginner Gear at 80 for the

Cloak of the Deadliest Game - Quest (Post-partum Aggression, Sholazar Basin)

is showing the Cloak of Bloodied Waters.
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Postby Baelor » Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:42 am

Dorvan wrote:I'm not sure it's worth mentioning, as the 2 bold rubies required make it more of an "expensive" item, but

http://www.wowhead.com/?item=33173

actually beats out the oracles and savage saronite shoulders with 2x16 Str gems

Oddly, http://www.wowhead.com/?item=44188 is actually a pretty good starter DPS cloak, beating out Illskar's for my stat weightings at least.

http://www.wowhead.com/?item=39805 is a good chestpiece (I've got it just above whalebone). http://www.wowhead.com/?item=41353 is also solid.

More to come later...

Ragesteel? I'm not gonna recommend people use old world materials and socket rare quality gems for the starter gear list, but I'll take a look at that over the weekend (when I'm at my home comp and have some more time) and see if I might want to add it to the "expensive" list.

The rest of the links I'll have to wait until I get home to check, I've got some work to do IRL that needs attending to!
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Postby Baelor » Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:43 am

Doogiehowser wrote:Also, the link on your Beginner Gear at 80 for the

Cloak of the Deadliest Game - Quest (Post-partum Aggression, Sholazar Basin)

is showing the Cloak of Bloodied Waters.

Fixed.
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Postby Doogiehowser » Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:45 am

Baelor wrote:
The rest of the links I'll have to wait until I get home to check, I've got some work to do IRL that needs attending to!


So do I but this is much more fun. :P
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Postby Baelor » Fri Mar 13, 2009 12:53 pm

Dorvan wrote:I'm not sure it's worth mentioning, as the 2 bold rubies required make it more of an "expensive" item, but

http://www.wowhead.com/?item=33173

actually beats out the oracles and savage saronite shoulders with 2x16 Str gems

Oddly, http://www.wowhead.com/?item=44188 is actually a pretty good starter DPS cloak, beating out Illskar's for my stat weightings at least.

http://www.wowhead.com/?item=39805 is a good chestpiece (I've got it just above whalebone). http://www.wowhead.com/?item=41353 is also solid.

More to come later...

Dorvan, would you say that the Cloak of Peacful Resolutions figures better than either of the blue cloaks I listed? Namely Cloak of the Deadliest Game or Cloak of Holy Extermination? If either of those blue cloaks are better, there's no need to list the tank cloak.

What is http://www.wowhead.com/?item=39805 linking?
Savage Saronite Hauberk is okay, I have it listed on the "expensive" list as it's the only chestpiece one can acquire without leaving town, so it fit on that list better. I'm hoping that people will use these two lists in tandem, figuring out which "expensive" pieces they can afford and which quests they all ready took the "wrong" reward for to come up with a decent set on their own.
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Postby majiben » Fri Mar 13, 2009 1:00 pm

Baelor wrote:Dorvan, would you say that the Cloak of Peacful Resolutions figures better than either of the blue cloaks I listed? Namely Cloak of the Deadliest Game or Cloak of Holy Extermination? If either of those blue cloaks are better, there's no need to list the tank cloak.
Cloak of the Deadliest Game is no where close to the tanking cloak. Cloak of Holy Extermination is a bit closer. Will post with the math soon.

Peacful gives the following assuming you don't have kings:
71.3 AP
25 hit

Holy gives
52 AP
34.4 crit rating (the equivelent of)
25 ArP

If we equate hit and crit rating then it becomes a matter of
19.3 AP versus 9.4 crit rating and 25 ArP
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Postby Baelor » Fri Mar 13, 2009 2:02 pm

Majiben wrote:
Baelor wrote:Dorvan, would you say that the Cloak of Peacful Resolutions figures better than either of the blue cloaks I listed? Namely Cloak of the Deadliest Game or Cloak of Holy Extermination? If either of those blue cloaks are better, there's no need to list the tank cloak.
Cloak of the Deadliest Game is no where close to the tanking cloak. Cloak of Holy Extermination is a bit closer. Will post with the math soon.

Peacful gives the following assuming you don't have kings:
71.3 AP
25 hit

Holy gives
52 AP
34.4 crit rating (the equivelent of)
25 ArP

If we equate hit and crit rating then it becomes a matter of
19.3 AP versus 9.4 crit rating and 25 ArP

Thanks for the math, Senor Froggy. I've added the tank cloak to the beginner/cheap list.
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Postby Kelaan » Fri Mar 13, 2009 4:59 pm

Interesting. I'll have to look more closely at maxdps.com's ranking of the tanking cloaks that have hit, then.
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