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[Ret-PVE] Building The Offset (DPS)

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[Ret-PVE] Building The Offset (DPS)

Postby honorshammer » Thu Mar 12, 2009 11:22 am

Crossposted from my blog http://honorscode.blogspot.com/2009/03/ ... 3-dps.html

Your big minimum as DPS is Hit, but even that is overshadowed by Strength. You need to reach about 8% Hit, but don’t sacrifice too much Strength to get there. You also need Expertise, Crit, Haste and Armor Penetration. You will actually find Strength, Hit, and Expertise on some Tanking gear, but it’s the Crit, Haste and Armor Penetration that really makes it DPS gear.

You are going to see quite a bit of PVP gear on this list. Keep in mind that most of the PVP gear will get outperformed by PVE gear, but you may need a Heroic drop or Raiddrop to surpass the PVP item. If you don’t PVP, or don’t feel you can reach the necessary rating, as is my case, you can ignore those pieces.

Head:
Spiked Titansteel Helm (Crafted BoE = Gold) - This helm will not be replaced until Raiding.
Deadly Helm (PVP)
Titan-forged Plate Helm of Triumph (40 Wintergrasp Marks of Honor)
Hateful Helm (45 EoV or PVP)
Helm of Command (BoE = Gold)
Faceguard of Punsihment (Quest: Vengeance Be Mine!) – This helm could actually be used for both Tanking and DPS

Neck:
Deadly Gladiator Pendant of Victory (PVP)
Pendant of the Outcast Hero – (EoH) – This item and the PVP are very close in performance and generally outperform Heroic drops.
Titanium Impact Choker (Crafted BoE = Gold)The Severed Noose of Westwind (Quest:The Admiral Revealed)

Shoulders:
Teir 7.5 DPS Shoulders (60 EoV)
Deadly Shoulders (PVP)
Hateful Shoulders (30 EoV)
Spaulders of the Giant Lords (Sons Of Hodir Revered) – Only one Heroic drop will outperform these
Mantle of Volkhan (Quest - Diameterically Opposed)

Back:
Hammerhead Sharkskin Cloak (25 EoV) – This won’t be replaced until Raids
Deadly Gladiator Cloak of Victory (PVP)
Cloak of Bloodied Waters (World BoE = gold) – Pretty much better than most Heoric drops and Capes are a very competitive slot
Hateful Gladiator Cloak of Victory (PVP)
Ice Striker’s Cloak (Crafted BoE = Gold)

Chest:
Tier 7 DPS Chest (80 EoH)
Deadly Chest (PVP)
Hateful Chest (45 EoV)
Savage Chest (PVP)
Battleplate of Unheard Ovation (Quest – Battle at Vahallas) – Both this and Jagged Stone should be upgraded in Heroics
Breastplate of Jagged Stone (Quest – Whatever It Takes)

Wrist:
Wristbands of the Sentinel Huntress (BoE or 60 EoV)
Vengenace Bindings (Crafted BoE = Gold) – This will not be replaced until Raids
Deadly Gladiator Bracers of Triumph (PVP)
Hateful Gladiator Bracers of Triumph (PVP)

Hands:
Zeliek’s Guantlets (World BoE = Gold) – You’ve got to be extremely lucky or rich or both to get these.
Tier 7 DPS Gloves (60 EoH)
Hateful Gauntlets (30 EoV)
Gauntlets of the Culling (Quest – A Royal Escort) – You’re set until you can get an epic.

Belt:
Verdungo's Barbarian Cord (40 EoH)
Deadly Gladiator Girdle of Triumph (PVP)
Hateful Gladiator Girdle of Triumph (PVP)
Thorim’s Grasp (Quest) – Try to get this upgraded as soon as you can.

Legs:
Tier 7.5 DPS Legs (75 EoV)
Deadly Legs (PVP)
Hateful Legs (PVP or 45 EoV)
Legpaltes of Bloody Reprisal (Wyrmrest Accord Exalted)
Plated Legs of the Unholy (Quest – The Rider of the Unholy)

Feet:
Iron Spring Jumpers (World BoE) – Again, either be lucky or very, very rich
Bladed Steelboots (40 EoV)
Death Insured Sabatons (Ebon Blade Exalted)
Deadly Gladiator’s Greves of Triumph (PVP)
Titan-forged Greaves of Triumph (Wintergrasp Marks of Honor)
Spiked Titansteel Treads (Crafted BoE = Gold)

Rings:
Ring of Invincibiltiy (25 EoV)
Ring of the Kirin Tor ($$$$)
Ring of Scarlet Shadows (Crafted BoE = Gold)
Deadly Gladiator’s Band of Victory (PVP)
Titanium Impact Ring (Crafted BoE = Gold)
Signet of the Bridenbrad (Quest – Light Within The Darkness)
Stained Glass Shard Ring (World BoE = Gold)

Trinkets:
Mirror of Truth (40 EoH)
Darkmoon Card: Greatness (Quest: Nobles Deck.) You need to buy the Noble Cards which are very, very expensive. The Strength version is an incredible for most DPS classes and it doubles as a really nice Tanking Trinket.
Crusader’s Locket (Quest – Defending the Vanguard)

Weapon:
Deadly Gladiator’s Bonegrinder (PVP) – I wish much success should you be able to acquire this and I further wish never to find you on the opposing team in a Battleground.
Titansteel Destroyer (Crafted BoE = Gold) – Pretty much the equal to any heroic or 10 man drop.
Runeblade of Demonstrable Power (Ebon Blade – Revered)
Argent Skeleton Crusher (Argent Crusade – Revered)
Whale Stick Harpoon (Kalu’ak – Revered)
Bloodied Arcanite Reaper (Hierloom BoA Item)
De-Raged Waraxe (Quest – Champion of Anquish) – Actually not too bad for a starter weapon until you can afford the Titansteel Destroyer

Ranged Slot
Paladin – Venture Company Libram of Retribution – Someone at Blizzard actually got paid to come up with this name.
Warrior – DPS Gun
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Postby majiben » Thu Mar 12, 2009 11:32 am

Just wanted to pop in and say that the optimal dps sets for rets are substainally below the hit cap. 1-2%. This is a big change from back in the day of TBC.
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Postby Doogiehowser » Thu Mar 12, 2009 11:45 am

I had already asked Baelor to add your write up Honorshammer. Hopefully he will to the link here.

http://www.failsafedesign.com/maintanka ... hp?t=21498

I enjoyed the write up. Thanks for putting that on your blog and on bighitbox.
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Postby Dorvan » Thu Mar 12, 2009 12:08 pm

Majiben wrote:Just wanted to pop in and say that the optimal dps sets for rets are substainally below the hit cap. 1-2%. This is a big change from back in the day of TBC.


Yeah, definitely don't tell people to shoot for 8%, just not to go over 8% by much. The word "minimum" should never be used with hit for Ret Pallies. It's a good stat, but there's nothing magical about it.
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Postby Baelor » Thu Mar 12, 2009 12:14 pm

Dorvan wrote:
Majiben wrote:Just wanted to pop in and say that the optimal dps sets for rets are substainally below the hit cap. 1-2%. This is a big change from back in the day of TBC.


Yeah, definitely don't tell people to shoot for 8%, just not to go over 8% by much. The word "minimum" should never be used with hit for Ret Pallies. It's a good stat, but there's nothing magical about it.

The word "minimum" should never be used in conjunction with ret paladins. There are no minimum values required to be effective for any stats.

Honors's guide is decent, but there are omissions, additions, and choices he made that I don't agree with at first brush. I'll give it a critical read tonight or over the weekend.

I've got a 2 week break from master's classes starting yesterday, so I'll likely be working up a few different gear guides for retribution soon as well.
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