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Postby Dorvan » Mon Mar 09, 2009 1:26 pm

Shoju wrote:well, I waited a couple of hours, and I just picked up 2,3,6,7 of nobles for about 2400 gold. I guess now it's back to farming dailies and ore so I can finish off the deck.


wtb your server economy :P

One card spiked down to 700g briefly yesterday (after I'd bought it for 850 the day before), most cards I've only seen as low as 1000g :P
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Postby amh » Mon Mar 09, 2009 1:29 pm

I'm the scribe-bitch for a mate of mine. He's plays a druid herbalist.. ie a monster when it comes to farming. Sends me pages worth of herbs and eternal life. I make cards, he becomes happy. When he gets happy, I get duplicate Nobles-cards.

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Postby Ana » Mon Mar 09, 2009 1:33 pm

What about rings? What are the better rings to get outside of a raid?
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Postby tullock » Mon Mar 09, 2009 1:38 pm

Not that its the bets trinket, or even a great trinket, but the undeath deck, that gives the darkmoon card death (85 crit and a shadow bolt type proc) goes for like 500g on my server, its a nice cheap trinket thats easy to come by while the faire is in town for offspecs.
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Postby Dorvan » Mon Mar 09, 2009 1:59 pm

As far as rings here's some options, rated best to worst

http://www.wowhead.com/?item=43251 is an excellent option as long as you can use the hit.

http://www.wowhead.com/?item=44935 is extremely expensive and may not be as good as the ring above depending on your gear level....I wouldn't bother imo

http://www.wowhead.com/?item=37642 is a solid ring for starting raids available from H Gundrak

http://www.wowhead.com/?item=42642 is another craftable ring, but again I have trouble justifying the expense given the available alternatives.

http://www.wowhead.com/?item=37685 is a good ring from H CoS


Anyway, before I repeat this exercise for every slot, here's a lootrank link to serve as a rough guide:

http://www.lootrank.com/wr.asp?Cla=2&Ar ... &j1=0&j2=0

That's a ranking based on stat weights taken from my current gear and Redcape's DPS spreadsheet. Some caveats:

-- don't trust the trinket ratings, lootrank doesn't model trinket use/procs well.
-- set bonuses aren't included at all. You really want 4pT7 even if you have to use some slightly "inferior" pieces.
-- the ranking assumes hit cap isn't an issue. If you take all the "best in slot" pieces in this list, you *will* be over hit cap.
-- if your gear level is lower than mine (see my armory), Str/AP will be worth relatively more than they are in this list.
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Postby Ana » Mon Mar 09, 2009 3:16 pm

Thank you Dorvan for always answering my questions, however inane they may be. :D
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Postby amh » Mon Mar 09, 2009 3:40 pm

I think you forgot this ring, which I might have nicked four minutes ago!
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Postby Dorvan » Mon Mar 09, 2009 3:42 pm

amh wrote:I think you forgot this ring, which I might have nicked four minutes ago!


I didn't forget that ring, but I had to cut my list off somewhere, and the five rings I listed are all better than that one.
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Postby amh » Mon Mar 09, 2009 4:20 pm

On that note, I just learned something. Apparently paladins don't get any attack power from agility >.< I thought it was a 1:1 ratio.

Was comparing the agility-ring to my strength-ring when I noticed a lack of attack power -_-


With said revelations in mind, my old cloak is probably better than my silly epic cloak.

Let the hilarity commence!
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Postby Zironic » Mon Mar 09, 2009 4:21 pm

Indeed, it's only hunters/rogues/druids that get 1 ap per agility, gives us lots of crit though.
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Postby Dorvan » Mon Mar 09, 2009 4:24 pm

amh wrote:With said revelations in mind, my old cloak is probably better than my silly epic cloak.

Let the hilarity commence!


Yep, the cloak of bloodied waters ranks #5 for Ret Pally cloaks (it's what I'm using), and the only better cloak from 10 mans is the Cloak of Mastery from Saph. The one saving grace for agility is that we have a much better Agi -> crit conversion than Warriors (I'm not sure about DKs).
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Postby majiben » Mon Mar 09, 2009 6:16 pm

Dorvan wrote:http://www.wowhead.com/?item=44935 is extremely expensive and may not be as good as the ring above depending on your gear level....I wouldn't bother imo
It's upgradable to http://ptr.wowhead.com/?item=45690 in 3.1 for 1k additional gold.
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Postby Dorvan » Mon Mar 09, 2009 6:26 pm

Majiben wrote:
Dorvan wrote:http://www.wowhead.com/?item=44935 is extremely expensive and may not be as good as the ring above depending on your gear level....I wouldn't bother imo
It's upgradable to http://ptr.wowhead.com/?item=45690 in 3.1 for 1k additional gold.


True, though that still puts it at #3 on the list of current rings, no doubt lower once we know what all is available in Ulduar. Now if that gear's out of reach for you this could be an option, I just think it doesn't fair well in a cost/benefit analysis. The ring certainly suffers from too much investment in stamina.
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Postby Zironic » Mon Mar 09, 2009 6:31 pm

Dorvan wrote:The ring certainly suffers from too much investment in stamina.


Isn't it almost impossible to find any epic with strength that doesn't have a 1:1.5 strength to stamina ratio?
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Postby Baelor » Mon Mar 09, 2009 6:45 pm

Zironic wrote:
Dorvan wrote:The ring certainly suffers from too much investment in stamina.


Isn't it almost impossible to find any epic with strength that doesn't have a 1:1.5 strength to stamina ratio?

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