Prot pallies and crit

[Ivliss]

Ok so with the new changes coming to the prot pally talent tree there are some interesting choices now availble. the choice I have comes down to this,

#1.) +15% to damage from all seals and judgements +6% crit bonus.
http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?paladin ... rsion=9626

#2.) +11% to crit chance
http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?paladin ... rsion=9626

#3.) +6% damage to undead, demons, humonoids and elementals (+3% to anything else) and +8% crit chance.
http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?paladin ... rsion=9626

So I gues the question is how valuable is crit in threat generation over a 10% bonus to damage on seals and judgements? Keep in mind that the bonus 6% damage on option #3 is on all attacks. I havent had a chance toplay much on the test realm yet but having a hard time judging which build will generate the most threat. Any theory crafters out there feel free to chime in, and thanks for the info.

[Dorvan]

1% damage handily beats 1% crit. Option 3 is what you want.

[majiben]

The talent calculators are highly inaccurate at this time. The new dependencies they are showing are just plain wrong. The best way to plan your spec is to simply write down the talents you're going to pick up.

[Ivliss]

for what its worth, the talent caluclators I linked matched what was in the game as of last night when i got into the the test realm. Now that obviously could change again between now and release of 3.1.

[majiben]

From what I heard there is no AD dependency on reckoning.

[Fenris]

From what I heard there is no AD dependency on reckoning.

Confirmed

MMo-C talent trees has the middle coluum pre-requirements switched on the right column (try it and you'll see you can take HS without sanctuary and SotT without HS)





Anyway,0-53-18 seems the best one....But i cant avoid thinking if 5-53-13 will be comparable or not with it ?_?

[Conaan!]

Anyway,0-53-18 seems the best one....But i cant avoid thinking if 5-53-13 will be comparable or not with it ?_?

http://maintankadin.failsafedesign.com/ ... hp?t=21004

rough math of just crusade vs SotP

[majiben]

I find it unlikely that SotP can beat cursade even against those that are not undead, demon, elemental, or humanoid. Judgements and seals would need to make up 20% of our tps. That's not to mention the additional 2% crit you could pick up.

Against the vulnerable mobs you would need seals and judgements to make up 40% of our tps. And again that doesn't consider the crit.

[Fenris]

Yep,i've seen it,i just keep messing up when i try to get some threat number for 5/5 SotP+3/5 conviction VS 5/5 conviction+3/3 crusade

[Briana]

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?paladin ... rsion=9626

There you go, just dropped a few from reckoning for improved devo aura. Personally, I know this is the spec I'll be using more than likely.