Heroic Violet Hold boss spawn rates

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Heroic Violet Hold boss spawn rates

Postby Toesmasher » Thu Dec 18, 2008 5:34 am

I've been looking to get the talisman from Violet Hold for 3 weeks or so now to no avail, and I'm starting to wonder how the boss spawn rates look. As it is, I've run probably 20 heroic Violet Holds or so, with the doggie spawning on a grand total of two of them (of course dropping the two items I wasn't interested in). This puts this particular boss at a spawn rate of 10%. In contrast, either the water elemental or void demon seem pretty much guaranteed to show up, and not uncommonly both of them.

Are the rates of the bosses evenly distributed (16.7/16.7/16.7/16.7/16.7/16.7% for first boss, (20/20/20/20/20% for second) or are they weighted in some strange way? By observation I'd say that the rates are something like 40/40/5/5/5/5% for the first one and 60/10/10/10/10%. Here 40/40% is the void demon and water elemental, and on the second boss 60 is whoever of void and water didn't spawn the first wave. Should neither void nor water spawn as the first boss, I'd say the rates on the second wave are 40/40/10/5/5%, with the 10 beeing the psychotic birdie.

Have I just been incredibly unlucky, or are the boss rates actually skewed?
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Postby EvilNuff » Thu Dec 18, 2008 8:49 am

Random, not weighted. I have done H VH every day since Monday 11/17 (missed 3 days) and still not even seen one of the bosses.
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Postby Belloc » Thu Dec 18, 2008 8:50 am

I almost always get the ethereal. I get the arrakoa quite often, and I occasionally get the void or water boss. I have yet to get Levanthor.

I think it's just rng, really. Just like how I never got R&J with my Karazhan group in the... several months that we actually ran it.
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Postby Chunes » Thu Dec 18, 2008 9:05 am

indeed, random boss selection is totally random.

I've seen the water boss maybe once in the last 10 times i've run it. I almost always get the ethereal and the arrakoa -_-

Remember if you're going to try and derive a statistical breakdown of boss spawn rate, you should shoot for a much more significant sample size.

say 5000 boss spawns ;P
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Postby Anubisknight » Thu Dec 18, 2008 9:38 am

Belloc wrote:I almost always get the ethereal. I get the arrakoa quite often, and I occasionally get the void or water boss. I have yet to get Levanthor.

I think it's just rng, really. Just like how I never got R&J with my Karazhan group in the... several months that we actually ran it.


I got the doggy, lost the roll for the trinket :(
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Postby svenholio » Thu Dec 18, 2008 11:36 am

Great site :D

Anyway, didnt realise how lucky I was last night getting the dog and winning the trinket, first time in the Violet Hold :D

Been needing a second trinket for ages
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Postby Spectrum » Thu Dec 18, 2008 12:03 pm

Yeah, it's random. You basically have a 33% chance to get a given boss in a given run.

I've run about 6-8 times and I have only had the revenant and arakoa once and the dog never. Lots of the void guy, and he is rough on people who have no idea what's going on.

Going to slowly keep trying. 25 min isn't bad for 3 badges, and it's right there.
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Postby Sarutankah » Mon Dec 29, 2008 5:38 pm

Got the trinket the other day after about 8 times with the dog boss, first time I had seen it drop and I was tanking that run so.. win.

Always get water boss lately, hate it with a passion.
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Postby Worldie » Mon Dec 29, 2008 9:53 pm

I seemb to always win annoying bosses. Water, Voidwalker and Ethereum are pretty standard for me.
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Postby Chunes » Tue Dec 30, 2008 12:00 am

this poor priest in my guild has been trying to get icharon to spawn for weeks now with no luck.

always the same two, ethereal and arrakoa...
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Postby majiben » Tue Dec 30, 2008 5:58 am

The dog and bird exist? And the ethreal isn't required?
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Postby Arjuna » Tue Dec 30, 2008 6:05 am

finally got the lockdown completed...but the birdman was very elusive! doggy and etheral was always on the alert for getting out of jail...got them almost every time :P
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Postby Playdoh » Tue Dec 30, 2008 7:31 am

WTB water boss more frequently to try for achievement :P.
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Postby katraya » Tue Dec 30, 2008 7:43 am

I have never seen the corehound boss in about 15-20 runs. I imagine that once I do see him he will drop something other than the damn trinket I need.

However, I have also never seen the ethereal boss. I am quite ok with this!
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Postby Flex » Tue Dec 30, 2008 9:54 am

Katraya wrote:I have never seen the corehound boss in about 15-20 runs. I imagine that once I do see him he will drop something other than the damn trinket I need.

However, I have also never seen the ethereal boss. I am quite ok with this!


6 Cyanigosa kills on heroic. You must have a horrible boss kill ratio.
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