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What numbers should I be going for now?

Postby Aruhgulah2 » Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:32 am

For BC, 490 def rating was the cap.

Now, though -- especially with the whole "lose def each time you level thing" which caught me seriously by surprise, because I didn't see any of this in the Blizz documentation or on the OF -- has the cap changed? I've been able to tank UK & Nexus just fine.

Finding out NOW that I'll lose def rating as I progress has me seriously annoyed, because I've been selling most of my quest rewards as "not beating my current purple gear". Now I'm wondering if I've just made a serious mistake -- I don't think I've sold any blues that have def rating, but I know I've dumped a lot of greens.
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Postby Dapaladin » Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:33 am

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Postby Samuelus » Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:34 am

search button still functions..

540 def at 80

490 at 70 so 5 points per lvl?

im at 440 BS on my lvl 73 " nautiness"

its no problem at all to get 540 def with BS crafteds
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Postby Aruhgulah2 » Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:36 am

Samuelus wrote:search button still functions..



:hangs head in shame: Sorry.
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Postby Zorminster » Tue Nov 18, 2008 1:55 pm

102.4% still the unhittable (everything is at least blocked) breakpoint for avoidance?
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Postby gmf1 » Tue Nov 18, 2008 2:23 pm

yep 102.4% its a % so it will never change unless they increase hit chance of bosses which they wont.

But im finding it rather hard to get, i was 3% over at 70 at 75 im 3 % under with all the new gear ive got giving more avoidance than my old gear.
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Postby Aruhgulah2 » Tue Nov 18, 2008 2:42 pm

I thought they did away with the whole crushing blow thing? Last I heard was that those dodge/parry/block ratings were good for avoidance and for proc'ing BoSanc, but that there was no longer any set number we had to be going for.
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Postby Valerius » Tue Nov 18, 2008 2:54 pm

You are right, crushing blows are off the table for anything less than 4 levels above you so they don't exist if you are in the right level instance.

However, 102.4% combined miss/block/parry/dodge is what is affectionately know as Block Capped now.

It effectively means that you will never take an unblocked hit. If you can reach this number with HS up, every attack from the boss will at least have your BV shaved off of the top. Paladins are really the only tanks that can still do this based on the changes to Warriors Shield Block. So it is still something to shoot for.
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Postby masterpoobaa » Tue Nov 18, 2008 3:00 pm

540 defence is what you need.

At Level 80 whats the conversion between defence points and defence val?
(at L70 it used to be 2.4 = 1)

Crushing blows still exist.
They are only done by mobs that are +4 levels higher than you (or more)
Raid bosses are considered to be +3 above max.
eg 83 for 10 and 25 man WotLK raids.
ergo, no bosses crush.
(unless you can get into a raid as level 79)

the old "102.4" avoidance magical figure still exists (sorta).
It no longer means 'u can avoid crushing blows' rather its now 'block capped' in that every attack done (with HS up) is either a miss, dodge, parry or damage reduced block.

so stacking more block doesnt do much, though stacking more block value is always good.
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