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How much BV at 75?

Postby Kinrain » Fri Oct 17, 2008 5:17 am

Can anyone give me an idea of how much BV we're likely to have at level 75?
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Postby hotlips » Fri Oct 17, 2008 5:51 am

no idea, kinda depends on your current gear as well. I know my current gear will last till 75, so it's about 1k BV when stacking BV items. You can probably get more, but i personally don't wanna loose much avoidance.
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Postby Kinrain » Fri Oct 17, 2008 6:36 am

Ok so correct me if i'm wrong or if i'm making a false assumption...

Either:
If your BV at 75 is 1k ShoR will do 1300 damage (BV +300).
Wings adds 20%, Sheild of the Templar adds 15% and 1HW Spec adds 10% making that 1973 damage

Without including any extra threat built into the spell thats 3749 threat with crits of 3946 and 7499 threat.

Or:

If those abilities add a % of base?

Then it would be 1300+260+195+130 = 1645 and 3125 with crits of 3290 damage and 6250 threat.

Anyone know which is correct?
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Postby Tensen » Fri Oct 17, 2008 6:56 am

Those numbers seem to be in line with what I am experiencing on the beta atm.

I beleive this has been shown as our highest threat move in previous posts.
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Postby lythac » Fri Oct 17, 2008 7:40 am

Kinrain wrote:Sheild of the Templar adds 15%


Shield of the Templar increases damage by 30% on wowhead atm.
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Postby majiben » Fri Oct 17, 2008 8:38 am

at 1k BV:

(1000BV+300)*1.10 (1hs)*1.30(SotT)= 1859
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Re: How much BV at 75?

Postby Kathane » Fri Oct 17, 2008 11:13 am

Kinrain wrote:Can anyone give me an idea of how much BV we're likely to have at level 75?


Moderately geared: a saronite shield (BS Crafted), Inuuro's Blade w/ potency, a couple BS cobalt pieces, quest reward shoulders from Nexus, Belt of the Guardian, Bracers of Green Fortress, Time-Warden's Leggings, Strength of the Untamed, Tankatronics, Devilshark Cape and Jade-Skull BP.

At level 75, my Shield Slap hits for 1300, crits for 2600.
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Re: How much BV at 75?

Postby Orms » Fri Oct 17, 2008 2:41 pm

Kathane wrote:
Kinrain wrote:Can anyone give me an idea of how much BV we're likely to have at level 75?


Moderately geared: a saronite shield (BS Crafted), Inuuro's Blade w/ potency, a couple BS cobalt pieces, quest reward shoulders from Nexus, Belt of the Guardian, Bracers of Green Fortress, Time-Warden's Leggings, Strength of the Untamed, Tankatronics, Devilshark Cape and Jade-Skull BP.

At level 75, my Shield Slap hits for 1300, crits for 2600.
you must have like 500 BV then
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Re: How much BV at 75?

Postby Kathane » Fri Oct 17, 2008 2:58 pm

Orms wrote:
Kathane wrote:
Moderately geared: a saronite shield (BS Crafted), Inuuro's Blade w/ potency, a couple BS cobalt pieces, quest reward shoulders from Nexus, Belt of the Guardian, Bracers of Green Fortress, Time-Warden's Leggings, Strength of the Untamed, Tankatronics, Devilshark Cape and Jade-Skull BP.

At level 75, my Shield Slap hits for 1300, crits for 2600.
you must have like 500 BV then


Probably closer to 600, since 1300/1.43 = 909 - 300 = 609

Sounds about right, and as I said, fairly low grade gear relative to a lot of folks :lol:
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Postby Kinrain » Fri Nov 07, 2008 8:27 am

Sorry to exert my powers of Thread Necromancy here and I know the Beta has ended but I'm bored at work and just want to look into this a bit more.

I'm pretty sure that we won't get a % modifier on the modifiers so it would be

(BV+300)+(10%)+(30%) = Damage

My block set has 750 BV at the moment so HSS (Holy Sheild Slap!) would hit for;

Hit: 1350
Crit: 2700

And create Threat at the rate of;

Hit: 2565
Crit: 5130

Pop Wings and that goes upto 1620 Hit, 3240 Crit and 3078 Threat or 6156 crit threat.

As its on a 6 second CD and part of our normal rotation that single spell is generating 427.5 to 855 TPS.

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Postby towelliee » Fri Nov 07, 2008 8:33 am

So this is the Pally Version of Shield Slam basically...
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Postby Loras » Fri Nov 07, 2008 8:46 am

Why do you always include Wings in the maths? Like they're permanent... Include trinkets, then, and food, and flasks, and... Blah. Use the general modifiers :)

P.S. 2600 crit at 75, when warriors can do more NOW. Yeah, "righteous"...
And mobs having 10-15k health, they need "only" 10 shields to die 8) Even more "righteous"... (of course I am missing the other skills in rotation, just wanted to underline the not-so-god-modeness of that skill... In fact, for a skill that is used at such a high level, it's fairly weak... Shield Slam will scale too, ya know...)
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Postby Moideib » Fri Nov 07, 2008 8:52 am

Not to nitpick but aren't the above calculations for threat forgetting the baked in salvation fix?

Is this accurate or am I accounting for something twice?
(BV+300)*1.1(1HWS)*1.3(SotT)*1.9(RF)*1.43(Baked Threat)=Threat

Simplified to:
(BV+300)*3.88531=Threat

Please correct me if I am unintentionally misleading anyone!

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Postby Widdox » Fri Nov 07, 2008 8:58 am

Edit:

I am noob.. 30% = Shield of Templar not Wings.
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Postby Widdox » Fri Nov 07, 2008 9:02 am

Moideib wrote:Not to nitpick but aren't the above calculations for threat forgetting the baked in salvation fix?

Is this accurate or am I accounting for something twice?
(BV+300)*1.1(1HWS)*1.3(SotP)*1.9(RF)*1.43(Baked Threat)=Threat

Simplified to:
(BV+300)*3.88531=Threat

Please correct me if I am unintentionally misleading anyone!

R/


OK here we go..

(BV+300) * 1.1(1HS) * 1.3 (Shield of the Templar) = X (amount of dmg Shor does)

X * 1.43 (salv baked) * 1.9 (Righteous Fury) = T (Threat)

IF BV=750 then
X = 1501.5
T = 4079.5755

Sooo .. to follow your logic more..

1.1 * 1.3 * 1.43 * 1.9 = 3.88531 Multiplier

(BV+300) * 3.88531 = SHoR Threat. (I'm not a huge fan of this, because 3.88531 is the number for ShoR only, and people might get confused.)

Conclusion: Yes you are correct although, I would stay away from doing it that way if it was me.

Edit: fixed Redoubt to Shield of the Templar.
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