How much BV at 75?
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no idea, kinda depends on your current gear as well. I know my current gear will last till 75, so it's about 1k BV when stacking BV items. You can probably get more, but i personally don't wanna loose much avoidance.
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hotlips - Posts: 48
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Ok so correct me if i'm wrong or if i'm making a false assumption...
Either:
If your BV at 75 is 1k ShoR will do 1300 damage (BV +300).
Wings adds 20%, Sheild of the Templar adds 15% and 1HW Spec adds 10% making that 1973 damage
Without including any extra threat built into the spell thats 3749 threat with crits of 3946 and 7499 threat.
Or:
If those abilities add a % of base?
Then it would be 1300+260+195+130 = 1645 and 3125 with crits of 3290 damage and 6250 threat.
Anyone know which is correct?
Either:
If your BV at 75 is 1k ShoR will do 1300 damage (BV +300).
Wings adds 20%, Sheild of the Templar adds 15% and 1HW Spec adds 10% making that 1973 damage
Without including any extra threat built into the spell thats 3749 threat with crits of 3946 and 7499 threat.
Or:
If those abilities add a % of base?
Then it would be 1300+260+195+130 = 1645 and 3125 with crits of 3290 damage and 6250 threat.
Anyone know which is correct?
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Kinrain wrote:Sheild of the Templar adds 15%
Shield of the Templar increases damage by 30% on wowhead atm.
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Re: How much BV at 75?
Kinrain wrote:Can anyone give me an idea of how much BV we're likely to have at level 75?
Moderately geared: a saronite shield (BS Crafted), Inuuro's Blade w/ potency, a couple BS cobalt pieces, quest reward shoulders from Nexus, Belt of the Guardian, Bracers of Green Fortress, Time-Warden's Leggings, Strength of the Untamed, Tankatronics, Devilshark Cape and Jade-Skull BP.
At level 75, my Shield Slap hits for 1300, crits for 2600.
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Re: How much BV at 75?
you must have like 500 BV thenKathane wrote:Kinrain wrote:Can anyone give me an idea of how much BV we're likely to have at level 75?
Moderately geared: a saronite shield (BS Crafted), Inuuro's Blade w/ potency, a couple BS cobalt pieces, quest reward shoulders from Nexus, Belt of the Guardian, Bracers of Green Fortress, Time-Warden's Leggings, Strength of the Untamed, Tankatronics, Devilshark Cape and Jade-Skull BP.
At level 75, my Shield Slap hits for 1300, crits for 2600.
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Re: How much BV at 75?
Orms wrote:you must have like 500 BV thenKathane wrote:
Moderately geared: a saronite shield (BS Crafted), Inuuro's Blade w/ potency, a couple BS cobalt pieces, quest reward shoulders from Nexus, Belt of the Guardian, Bracers of Green Fortress, Time-Warden's Leggings, Strength of the Untamed, Tankatronics, Devilshark Cape and Jade-Skull BP.
At level 75, my Shield Slap hits for 1300, crits for 2600.
Probably closer to 600, since 1300/1.43 = 909 - 300 = 609
Sounds about right, and as I said, fairly low grade gear relative to a lot of folks
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Sorry to exert my powers of Thread Necromancy here and I know the Beta has ended but I'm bored at work and just want to look into this a bit more.
I'm pretty sure that we won't get a % modifier on the modifiers so it would be
(BV+300)+(10%)+(30%) = Damage
My block set has 750 BV at the moment so HSS (Holy Sheild Slap!) would hit for;
Hit: 1350
Crit: 2700
And create Threat at the rate of;
Hit: 2565
Crit: 5130
Pop Wings and that goes upto 1620 Hit, 3240 Crit and 3078 Threat or 6156 crit threat.
As its on a 6 second CD and part of our normal rotation that single spell is generating 427.5 to 855 TPS.
Righteous!
I'm pretty sure that we won't get a % modifier on the modifiers so it would be
(BV+300)+(10%)+(30%) = Damage
My block set has 750 BV at the moment so HSS (Holy Sheild Slap!) would hit for;
Hit: 1350
Crit: 2700
And create Threat at the rate of;
Hit: 2565
Crit: 5130
Pop Wings and that goes upto 1620 Hit, 3240 Crit and 3078 Threat or 6156 crit threat.
As its on a 6 second CD and part of our normal rotation that single spell is generating 427.5 to 855 TPS.
Righteous!
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Why do you always include Wings in the maths? Like they're permanent... Include trinkets, then, and food, and flasks, and... Blah. Use the general modifiers
P.S. 2600 crit at 75, when warriors can do more NOW. Yeah, "righteous"...
And mobs having 10-15k health, they need "only" 10 shields to die
Even more "righteous"... (of course I am missing the other skills in rotation, just wanted to underline the not-so-god-modeness of that skill... In fact, for a skill that is used at such a high level, it's fairly weak... Shield Slam will scale too, ya know...)
P.S. 2600 crit at 75, when warriors can do more NOW. Yeah, "righteous"...
And mobs having 10-15k health, they need "only" 10 shields to die
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Loras - Posts: 441
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Not to nitpick but aren't the above calculations for threat forgetting the baked in salvation fix?
Is this accurate or am I accounting for something twice?
(BV+300)*1.1(1HWS)*1.3(SotT)*1.9(RF)*1.43(Baked Threat)=Threat
Simplified to:
(BV+300)*3.88531=Threat
Please correct me if I am unintentionally misleading anyone!
R/
*Edit* Acronym Fail
Is this accurate or am I accounting for something twice?
(BV+300)*1.1(1HWS)*1.3(SotT)*1.9(RF)*1.43(Baked Threat)=Threat
Simplified to:
(BV+300)*3.88531=Threat
Please correct me if I am unintentionally misleading anyone!
R/
*Edit* Acronym Fail
Last edited by Moideib on Fri Nov 07, 2008 9:01 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Moideib wrote:Not to nitpick but aren't the above calculations for threat forgetting the baked in salvation fix?
Is this accurate or am I accounting for something twice?
(BV+300)*1.1(1HWS)*1.3(SotP)*1.9(RF)*1.43(Baked Threat)=Threat
Simplified to:
(BV+300)*3.88531=Threat
Please correct me if I am unintentionally misleading anyone!
R/
OK here we go..
(BV+300) * 1.1(1HS) * 1.3 (Shield of the Templar) = X (amount of dmg Shor does)
X * 1.43 (salv baked) * 1.9 (Righteous Fury) = T (Threat)
IF BV=750 then
X = 1501.5
T = 4079.5755
Sooo .. to follow your logic more..
1.1 * 1.3 * 1.43 * 1.9 = 3.88531 Multiplier
(BV+300) * 3.88531 = SHoR Threat. (I'm not a huge fan of this, because 3.88531 is the number for ShoR only, and people might get confused.)
Conclusion: Yes you are correct although, I would stay away from doing it that way if it was me.
Edit: fixed Redoubt to Shield of the Templar.
Last edited by Widdox on Fri Nov 07, 2008 9:11 am, edited 3 times in total.
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