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New defense rating number?

Postby Hatthorn » Wed Oct 29, 2008 10:28 am

Ok, I don't know if this has already been covered, but what defense skill rating shold we be shooting for to do heroics and raids in wotlk? If this already has could someone please send me the right way?
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Postby Fizzgig » Wed Oct 29, 2008 10:30 am

Q: How much defence do I need?
A: @70: 490 And you lost 20 due to talent changes.
A: @80: 540 About 689 rating. This is a lot.


Taken from the 3.0.2 and Wrath FAQ at the top of this forum.
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Postby Hatthorn » Wed Oct 29, 2008 10:31 am

Ok thanks a lot, I hardly ever check this site out so I'm always lost when I come here.
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Postby Fizzgig » Wed Oct 29, 2008 10:32 am

No problemo, the stickies are usually the best place for info as the ones initially posting them tend to keep them updated and accurate. If not the mods remove them due to outdated information. Enjoy good sir.
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Postby Arcand » Wed Oct 29, 2008 10:35 am

http://www.failsafedesign.com/maintanka ... c&start=30

Here's where we hammered it out. (Ha, ha)

If a boss has a base 5% crit chance, and is three levels higher than you, then your defense has to be

(5 x max level) + 15 (to cover the three extra levels) + 125 (to eliminate the 5% crit chance)

At level 70, that gives us 490. At level 80 it's 540, or 140 defense beyond what we'll have naked.

Elitist Jerks finds that it takes 4.92 defense rating at level 80 to make one point of defense skill, and 140 x 4.92 = 688.8.

Hence the short version - 540 defense skill, 689 defense rating.
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Postby dmok » Wed Oct 29, 2008 10:37 am

@ level 1, you need an additional 140 defense skill to become uncrittable against a mob 3 levels higher than you. this ratio carries over straight through to any level.

@60: 300 + 140 = 440def
@70: 350 + 140 = 490def
@80: 400 + 140 = 540def
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Postby Arcand » Wed Oct 29, 2008 10:41 am

I considered putting that and talked myself out of it, but yeah.

5 x maxLevel + 140

will be the required defense skill for all raid tanks*, forever, unless there's a fundamental change to combat mechanics.


* Except druids. /congrats /doom
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