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SoB in Wrath

Postby Schade » Tue Oct 28, 2008 10:42 am

I've been back and forth between SoB and SoR with tanking since I started full time 70 raiding.
I know all the arguments against using SoB, as it is based more off ret stats such as STR and weapon dmg (things we aren't, or weren't, used to having as a tank).

My question here is, will this seal become more viable for tanking now that Blizz has focused our attack bases more on STR?

Is it feasible that a paladin could use both SD (through consecrate) and melee to generate more threat than either alone?

I'm not a great math person, so I've only based anything here more off practice than theory...please be kind. :)
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Postby Obrimos » Tue Oct 28, 2008 10:50 am

No, use Seal of Vengance/Corruption.

Read the stickies as to why.
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Re: SoB in Wrath

Postby Vioarr » Tue Oct 28, 2008 11:24 am

Schade wrote:I've been back and forth between SoB and SoR with tanking since I started full time 70 raiding.
I know all the arguments against using SoB, as it is based more off ret stats such as STR and weapon dmg (things we aren't, or weren't, used to having as a tank).

My question here is, will this seal become more viable for tanking now that Blizz has focused our attack bases more on STR?

Is it feasible that a paladin could use both SD (through consecrate) and melee to generate more threat than either alone?

I'm not a great math person, so I've only based anything here more off practice than theory...please be kind. :)


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Postby Schade » Tue Oct 28, 2008 11:33 am

I'll have to look at SoV/Corr, I haven't had a chance to see a lot of the new wrath content.

As for the dmg from SoB - on average I take 100dmg per judgement from it- if you can't live through an extra 100 dmg...you shouldn't be tanking. I tend to favor it heroics where I'm not taking any dmg anyway, but yes, I probably wouldn't use it on Brutallus.
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Postby majiben » Tue Oct 28, 2008 12:42 pm

It's a needless risk. Also that picture belongs in your signature not avatar.
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Postby Schade » Tue Oct 28, 2008 9:50 pm

Ok my question isn't related to whether or not SoB will kill you, it's whether it provides better threat than the other BC seals with our stat change.

Obrimos gave me some good info for when we get the new ones, I was just interested in the stat change.

On a side note- I don't think I've ever used SoB in a situation where it COULD kill me. Heroics R hard.
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Postby Fridmarr » Tue Oct 28, 2008 10:07 pm

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Postby earanduin » Tue Oct 28, 2008 10:12 pm

Using SoB/M is not really all that bad for clears though, as getting an SoV proc from HotR on a mob that was supposed to be sheeped by a falling-asleep mage, can get annoying
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Postby Obrimos » Tue Oct 28, 2008 10:36 pm

Schade wrote:Ok my question isn't related to whether or not SoB will kill you, it's whether it provides better threat than the other BC seals with our stat change.

Obrimos gave me some good info for when we get the new ones, I was just interested in the stat change.

On a side note- I don't think I've ever used SoB in a situation where it COULD kill me. Heroics R hard.


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Postby hotlips » Wed Oct 29, 2008 12:46 am

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Postby Passionario » Wed Oct 29, 2008 1:57 am

Blood/Martyr should only be used in a situation when you are likely to be hit by an incapacitate effect that breaks on damage, and then only when you have no definite offtank/DPS aggro leader to slap HoSac on.

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Postby Levantine » Wed Oct 29, 2008 2:11 am

Take that picture out of your Avatar, and put it in your sig.

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Postby Worldie » Wed Oct 29, 2008 3:13 am

Passionario wrote:Blood/Martyr should only be used in a situation when you are likely to be hit by an incapacitate effect that breaks on damage, and then only when you have no definite offtank/DPS aggro leader to slap HoSac on.

I'm pretty sure this side-effect has been removed with 3.0
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