How hard did the Nerf hit our TPS?

[Equitas]

I need people who actually play in the Beta with Threatmeters who can tell me what their TPS (sustained, Spikes and possibly averages) was before the nerf and how much it went down after the Patch now.

[ScribeShanky]

You'll find the fraction of a percent less TPS we produce makes the Protection Paladin unplayable.

[majiben]

a 5-10% drop.

[Equitas]

You'll find the fraction of a percent less TPS we produce makes the Protection Paladin unplayable.

that was sarcasm right?

[majiben]

You'll find the fraction of a percent less TPS we produce makes the Protection Paladin unplayable.

that was sarcasm right?

Yes

[Joanadark]

Standing there while JoL generates threat for you is both a dynamic, fun, and innovatively designed playstyle system.

[Invisusira]

I think he's asking how much the actual nerf to all our seals and judgements' damage hit us, not the fixing of JoL.

[Worldie]

The TPS nerf is not much impressive, just hurts more a point where we are already vulnerable (we're the least TPS generating tanks)

[fuzzygeek]

You'll find the fraction of a percent less TPS we produce makes the Protection Paladin unplayable.

that was sarcasm right?

Yes

Nooooo.

[Io.Draco]

So how is our dps compared to the other tanks then?

[JUSTISE]

iono about us being the "least tps generating tanks" but I kno I overtake aggro from our warrior tanks easily. He is more geared than I am. (Not considering me using Wings)

[Worldie]

iono about us being the "least tps generating tanks" but I kno I overtake aggro from our warrior tanks easily. He is more geared than I am. (Not considering me using Wings)

That warrior then fails, because i cannot possibly generate more TPS than a same geared warrior as me.

Hell, my warrior generates like 500 TPS less than my paladin, one is full crap, other is full t6.5.

[Sabindeus]

iono about us being the "least tps generating tanks" but I kno I overtake aggro from our warrior tanks easily. He is more geared than I am. (Not considering me using Wings)

That warrior then fails, because i cannot possibly generate more TPS than a same geared warrior as me.

Hell, my warrior generates like 500 TPS less than my paladin, one is full crap, other is full t6.5.

maybe he's referring to the JoL bug

[Elexis]

There is also the boss armor buff to consider so we might not come out so bad after all.

However, I fail to understand how protadin/healadin seals/judgement needed to be toned down. They were already doing less dmg for me in 3.0 than it did pre 3.0 and it's not like those 2 speccs were soloing fast. Was rather the opposite, single target grinding for prot & holy paladins sucked balls.

Luckily I got alts to grind with and I won't lvl as protection. I do however die a bit inside everytime I see holy/protection paladins grind at snail pace and now it will be even worse.

[Worldie]

iono about us being the "least tps generating tanks" but I kno I overtake aggro from our warrior tanks easily. He is more geared than I am. (Not considering me using Wings)

That warrior then fails, because i cannot possibly generate more TPS than a same geared warrior as me.

Hell, my warrior generates like 500 TPS less than my paladin, one is full crap, other is full t6.5.

maybe he's referring to the JoL bug

Thing is, i'm talking *with* the judgement bug.

My warrior goes around 2400 TPS raidbuffed, my paladin around 3k on average-raiddamage fight (not as excessive as felmyst nor unexistant as attumen)