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Does Heart of the Crusader Stack?

Postby Eanin » Sat Oct 18, 2008 11:47 am

I'm just wondering if Heart of the Crusader stacks, if a ret paladin gets it and judges light when I judge wisdom. Also, would it stack if we both judge the same thing?
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Postby Roulex » Sat Oct 18, 2008 12:14 pm

Nope, it doesn't stack. It also won't stack with other +3% crit talents, like Master Poisoner from an Assassination rogue.
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Postby Andryana » Sat Oct 18, 2008 12:47 pm

Will it stack with a warrior's rampage or Leader of the pack? (5%)
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Postby tinalt » Sat Oct 18, 2008 12:49 pm

if it is anything like most of the raid buffs now, no. i'm at work so I can't verify it, but off the top of my head, i'd say that the 5% crit would overwrite it, like the talented battle shout overwrites untalented BoM
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Postby majiben » Sat Oct 18, 2008 12:49 pm

Andryana wrote:Will it stack with a warrior's rampage or Leader of the pack? (5%)
Yes because one is a mob debuff and the other is player buff. Also it would be silly to have 2 raid wide boosts that didn't stack when one is almost twice as good as the other.
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Postby Worldie » Sat Oct 18, 2008 12:55 pm

Yes, it stacks with 5% crit.

Multiple Heart of Crusader wont stack.
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Postby Zumor » Mon Oct 20, 2008 4:01 am

http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=14214.0

Melee Critical Strike Chance Buff: Leader of the Pack, Rampage

Critical Strike Chance Taken Debuff (All types): Heart of the Crusader, Totem of Wrath

2 diffrent category, rampage and Heart of the Crusader stack
Leader of the pack and Heart of the Crusader stack
Leader of the Pack and Rampage dont stack and Heart of the Crusader stack to max 8%
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Postby Papewaio » Tue Oct 21, 2008 8:22 am

For most buff stacking questions, who provides what, and planning around that:

http://raidcomp.mmo-champion.com/

(since someone is likely to ask: You can have all buffs/debuffs at 14 people, haven't tried going for less, though it only becomes useful if you get it to 10)
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Postby Zironic » Tue Oct 21, 2008 9:08 am

11:
http://raidcomp.mmo-champion.com/?c=46t ... 0000000000

10 will lack 1 thing: However it's a 1 tank 2 healer setup which I'm unsure if it's viable or not in WotlK.
http://raidcomp.mmo-champion.com/?c=4dt ... 0000000000
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Postby Shainey » Tue Oct 21, 2008 9:09 am


a 2nd tank?
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Postby Zironic » Tue Oct 21, 2008 9:15 am

Shainey wrote:a 2nd tank?

Yup, I still don't know if 10 man content requires 2 tanks or if a dps spec tank do the second tank role when required. Once dual spec is implemented any of the plate dps could just respec for a particular fight.
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Postby Worldie » Tue Oct 21, 2008 9:29 am

You aren't really going to do even Naxxramas with a tight 1 tank 2 healer setup.
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Postby Ahroo » Tue Oct 21, 2008 10:38 am

beter question is this,

Why are there double Wisdom or triple Light on the boss in raids with me prot and 3 ret paladins.

They don't stack is the debuff system bugged?

Also I get 2 ret auras from time to time, 1 improved and 1 not? Stacking?
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Postby majiben » Tue Oct 21, 2008 10:41 am

Ahroo wrote:Also I get 2 ret auras from time to time, 1 improved and 1 not? Stacking?
They are partially stacking. One of the ret auras gives more reactive damage due to one of the paladins having more SP. The other one however gives the haste and damage benifit.
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Postby Rasmfrackn » Tue Oct 21, 2008 12:02 pm

Shainey wrote:

a 2nd tank?


http://raidcomp.mmo-champion.com/?c=e5n ... 0000000000 ?

The only weakness I see is the disc priest as a healer, but honestly I bet it's not that bad, and the only thing you're missing if you use a Holy priest is you have a weaker spirit buff from the warlock. If you're just going by the categories, I think that covers everything.
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