seal of corruption is BLEH

[steadypal]

seriously what did blizzard do to our tanking seal? months ago it was NICE, now its BLEH its constantly coming in 4th in my dmg, when IMO it should be coming out alot higher, c'mon, melee is doing more dmg than seal? and seals are normally fully stacked on 3+ mobs quite a bit? k that is all lol

[knaughty]

IBTL

[guillex]

IBTL

/facepalm

[gmf1]

Only thing i can say it that your a tank not a dps class its the tps not dps that matters.

[Vanifae]

seriously what did blizzard do to our tanking seal? months ago it was NICE, now its BLEH its constantly coming in 4th in my dmg, when IMO it should be coming out alot higher, c'mon, melee is doing more dmg than seal? and seals are normally fully stacked on 3+ mobs quite a bit? k that is all lol

It gets the job done, your overall damage increased significantly, this is a fact.

To the last poster DPS is TPS, the sooner people get that the better.

[Jargen]

seriously what did blizzard do to our tanking seal? months ago it was NICE, now its BLEH its constantly coming in 4th in my dmg, when IMO it should be coming out alot higher, c'mon, melee is doing more dmg than seal? and seals are normally fully stacked on 3+ mobs quite a bit? k that is all lol

Don't know about you, but every time I do an instance run as a tank, I'm consistently 1st in dps, and at least 30% of my dps is Holy Vengeance

[crabcrouton]

I think he was commenting specifically to the part where the OP said that melee does more damage than the seal. Melee damage: threat isn't the same as holy damage: threat.

[Vanifae]

I think he was commenting specifically to the part where the OP said that melee does more damage than the seal. Melee damage: threat isn't the same as holy damage: threat.

It's threat and something I have mentioned before our white damage is going to continually get higher and higher, this is a fact. Thankfully we have a threat modifier to it, but not as high as Holy damage.

[crabcrouton]

I'm not so sure. I mean if my melee damage is 20% of my overall damage, let's say 20k, that's 20k threat. If Seal damage is 15%, well that's 15k damage but 28.5k threat. Despite being less damage, it's higher threat and that's one issue the OP is ignoring.

We're also not 100% out of the "causes a high amount of threat" woods yet since there's still things like: http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=53600

[Vanifae]

I'm not so sure. I mean if my melee damage is 20% of my overall damage, let's say 20k, that's 20k threat. If Seal damage is 15%, well that's 15k damage but 28.5k threat. Despite being less damage, it's higher threat and that's one issue the OP is ignoring.

We're also not 100% out of the "causes a high amount of threat" woods yet since there's still things like: http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=53600

Actually white damage has a 1.43 modifier for threat when you have RF running.

[knaughty]

Actually white damage has a 1.43 modifier for threat when you have RF running.

I was wondering what toggled "I R A TANK!" threat mode. Thought that might be it.

So it's Defensive Stance / RF / Frost presence / Bear form, I assume?

[Sharlos]

Actually white damage has a 1.43 modifier for threat when you have RF running.

I was wondering what toggled "I R A TANK!" threat mode. Thought that might be it.

So it's Defensive Stance / RF / Frost presence / Bear form, I assume?

yup

[Worldie]

So it's Defensive Stance / RF / Frost presence / Bear form, I assume?

Exactly those

[crabcrouton]

I'm not so sure. I mean if my melee damage is 20% of my overall damage, let's say 20k, that's 20k threat. If Seal damage is 15%, well that's 15k damage but 28.5k threat. Despite being less damage, it's higher threat and that's one issue the OP is ignoring.

We're also not 100% out of the "causes a high amount of threat" woods yet since there's still things like: http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=53600

Actually white damage has a 1.43 modifier for threat when you have RF running.

I was under the impression that everything you do has a 1.43 modifier.

That is, your holy damage deals 1.9 modified by an additional 1.43.

Assuming that Salv is baked into everything you do then it's irrelevant in a comparison between white and holy damage since it affects both. Actually come to think of it, Salv skews the gap even further.

100 white threat to 1000 holy threat is a 900 threat difference.
With a 1.43 modifier then 143 white threat to 1430 holy threat is a 1287 threat difference.

[Kethion]

I was under the impression that everything you do has a 1.43 modifier.

That is, your holy damage deals 1.9 modified by an additional 1.43.

Partially correct. Every action you take while under the effect of righteous fury has a +43% threat modifier (as the "HAY I R TENKIN GUYZ" baked-in modifier). Holy damage has the +90% threat from RF in addition to this. In short: While under righteous fury, one point of white damage does 1.43 threat, and one point of holy damage does 2.717 threat.

Assuming that Salv is baked into everything you do then it's irrelevant in a comparison between white and holy damage since it affects both. Actually come to think of it, Salv makes skews the gap even further.

100 white threat to 1000 holy threat is a 900 threat difference.
With a 1.43 modifier then 143 white threat to 1430 holy threat is a 1287 threat difference.

In raw numbers? Yes, the gap is widened. However the white to holy threat ratio is still 1:1.9

Also, your last paragraph's point seems to have escaped me. Why are you comparing 100/143 white threat to 1000/1430 holy threat?