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Postby majiben » Mon Oct 13, 2008 10:44 pm

towelliee wrote:So Concecrate does not scale with anything but Spell Power correct?


So only abilities that scale with SP are concecrate and Holy Shield?
Both scale with AP as well as they do with SP. The only reason why people would ever use a spell damage weapon with consecrate is that it's easier to find a weapon with a massive amount of SP than one with the same amount of spell power. Now this is only useful in 5+ true aoe situations (no proity target).
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Postby towelliee » Mon Oct 13, 2008 10:51 pm

Did I miss somewhere on WOTLK forums the calculations for AP SP and Concecrate for TPS?

So 4 Target tanking DPS Wep

Massive AOE back to Spell Power Weap?
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Postby majiben » Mon Oct 13, 2008 10:57 pm

towelliee wrote:Did I miss somewhere on WOTLK forums the calculations for AP SP and Concecrate for TPS?

So 4 Target tanking DPS Wep

Massive AOE back to Spell Power Weap?
The only reason why a spell damage weapon would be used on massive AoE is because spell damage weapons trade dps for spell power. Otherwise AP is just as good as SP as far consecration is concerned.
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Postby towelliee » Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:08 am

So technically...

Berzerkers Call and Shard of Contempt are better SD Trinkets then

Hex's Shrunken Head and Icon of Silver Crescent?

Because 1 AP = 1 SP?
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Postby towelliee » Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:40 am

Ok I just got confused

Judgement has been replaced with 3 new spells; Judgement of Light, Judgement of Wisdom, and Judgement of Justice. All Judgement spells are considered ranged attacks for purposes of how they hit and how they critically hit. All cause damage based on attack power and spell power.

Judgement of Light now heals based on the Paladin’s attack power and spell power, the effect can not trigger more than once ever 4 seconds.

Judgement of Justice will no longer prevent Fear effects, but will only prevent NPCs from fleeing (e.g. at low health).

Judgement of Wisdom now restores mana based on the Paladin’s attack power and spell power, the effect can not trigger more than once every 4 seconds


So when I Seal Corruption. What am I Judging? Like I see the buff now but your saying I can now Judge 3 things instead of just normal judge for each seal.
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Postby Jedah » Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:50 am

towelliee wrote:So when I Seal Corruption. What am I Judging? Like I see the buff now but your saying I can now Judge 3 things instead of just normal judge for each seal.


Yes, what you judge (light, wisdom, justice) is now completely independent of your current seal.
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Postby towelliee » Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:57 am

So the Seal itself will be a buff on US. But in past we had a normal Judgement that would do damage.

So our NORMAL now judgement is GONE. So we have choice between 3 judges.

Now even though I am using Seal of Righteousness lets say, and I Judge Wisdom on my target does the Judge itself still hit for the dmg for seal of righteousness while at the same time judging the enemy?
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Postby KysenMurrin » Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:16 am

The judgment spells now work like this:
1. Apply that judgement's debuff
2. Apply judgement effect of current seal (in all cases damage, amount of damage depends on which seal)
3. Proc current seal


The old system was:
1. Apply judgement effect of current seal (either damage or debuff)


The new thing is that the debuffs (light/wisdom/justice) are connected to the judgements now rather than the seals, and that judging procs your seal.
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Postby towelliee » Tue Oct 14, 2008 10:23 am

So any of the 3 new judges will proc my seal of corrruption but at the same time apply the judgement to the npc?
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Postby Playdoh » Tue Oct 14, 2008 10:28 am

exactly. <3!!!

The judgement part of the seal happens when you use any type of judgement.

The NPC gets the debuff of the judgement you use.

It no longer consumes the seal so you do not have to reseal after you judge.
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Postby towelliee » Tue Oct 14, 2008 10:30 am

Ok i got it now thanks just felt weird knowing you keep judging same judge over and over lol
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Postby towelliee » Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:31 pm

Ok

1 Ap = 1 sp is not valid i just put on zerkers call and sd went down
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Postby Conaan! » Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:16 pm

towelliee wrote:Ok

1 Ap = 1 sp is not valid i just put on zerkers call and sd went down


1 ap = sp when it comes to threat....
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Postby Lave » Wed Oct 15, 2008 1:42 am

towelliee wrote:Ok

1 Ap = 1 sp is not valid i just put on zerkers call and sd went down


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Postby towelliee » Wed Oct 15, 2008 9:09 am

Hi guys I have a druid tank who is confused about his dodge now. When does diminishing returns kick in now for a Druid tank? How much dodge before it kicks in?
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