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Help needed on a Brut issue

Postby Karador » Tue Sep 09, 2008 7:56 pm

Raid is ongoing right now but i need some links to Vids of Pally tanks on Brut.

Basically it boils down to a retard opening his mouth and highly pissing me off. So any links you guys have please throw them up for me.


WWS will be up of the tries later tonight after the raid.


Thanks in advance guys for helping me shut this retard up. ( New mage to the guild that never saw brut before tonight saying that Pally tanks CAN NOT tank this guy. ) Was my first night in there on him as a tank and this guy just rubbed me the wrong way. Gotta love people that don't know his ass from a hole in the ground talking shit as a new member to a guild....


/nerdrage off
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Postby Worldie » Tue Sep 09, 2008 8:10 pm

theckhd wrote:Fuck no, we've seen what you do to guilds. Just imagine what you could do to an entire country. Just visiting the US might be enough to make the southern states try to secede again.

halabar wrote:Noo.. you don't realize the problem. Worldie was to negative guild breaking energy like Bolvar is to the Scourge. If Worldie is removed, than someone must pick up that mantle, otherwise that negative guild breaking energy will run rampant, destroying all the servers.
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Postby Karador » Tue Sep 09, 2008 10:03 pm

Thanks Worldi


Now to go shut this moron up.
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Postby Afraithe » Wed Sep 10, 2008 1:08 am

Here is some WWS logs if you need.

Me
http://wowwebstats.com/3tuxi4bjw33wi?s= ... &a=xe15ebb

The Warrior
http://wowwebstats.com/3tuxi4bjw33wi?s= ... &a=x5a87e3

Altho I took more damage in the fight, I tanked longer in total than him, mitigated and avoided more.

Ive saved the raid/kill a few times when the tank has died on 20-30% or so, move back and forth so no raid member gets more than 3 stacks.

9 stacks is around 20k damage, so once you get 8 or 9 stacks, bubble (will kill a melee, probably) cancel it and keep tanking.
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Postby Karador » Wed Sep 10, 2008 3:35 am

Here are the WWS reports from the attempts I did. I am in for attempts 1-6 on brut.

http://wowwebstats.com/u43rzzkxsbu1m?m

If any of you WWS Guru's can look these over and tell me what happened and why i would be in your debt.

If it is me, please feel free to point it out as i am asking for ANY help i can get beyond the brut sticky that i have read like 10 times.

If it is the healers please point that out as well so i can bring this up.

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Thanks a ton in advance guys. Finding this forum was the best thing i could have done as a tankadin since you guys are the best!
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Postby Rehlachs- » Wed Sep 10, 2008 4:16 am

edits: spelling.. grammar.. not my native language.. bad.

try1: erm, nothing to see here


try2:
* 20:53'23.266 Yeomin Holy Light heals Karador for 2316. (Critical)
* 20:53'23.594 Trygger Regrowth heals Karador for 2478.
* 20:53'23.594 Eander Holy Light heals Karador for 7084. (Critical)
[...] no heals and 3 melee swings here [...]
* 20:53'26.063 Karador died.

let me put it this way.. why the hell is Yeomin downranking like that? your healers fail in healing you in constant intervals and actually heal you simultaneously.


try3:
* taunt
* 21:01'17.563 Brutallus melee swing hits Karador for 7524 Physical. (448 Blocked)
* 21:01'17.563 Brutallus melee swing hits Karador for 2882 Physical. (448 Blocked)
* 21:01'18.750 Brutallus melee swing hits Karador for 5835 Physical. (448 Blocked)
* 21:01'18.750 Brutallus melee swing hits Karador for 3745 Physical.
* 21:01'19.891 Brutallus melee swing hits Karador for 5198 Physical. (448 Blocked)
* 21:01'19.891 Brutallus attack was parried by Karador.
* 21:01'20.438 Karador died.

no heal within a time span of 3 seconds.. dead tank.


try4:
* 21:09'20.375 Harleigh Healing Wave heals Karador for 9104. (Critical)
* 21:09'20.860 Yeomin Holy Light heals Karador for 8174. (Critical)
* 21:09'20.875 Eander Holy Light heals Karador for 5239.
* 21:09'21.203 Brutallus attack was parried by Karador.
* 21:09'21.203 Brutallus melee swing hits Karador for 4494 Physical. (448 Blocked)
* 21:09'21.813 Karador gains 562 health from Trygger Regrowth.
* 21:09'21.938 Karador gains Rejuvenation.
* 21:09'22.125 Karador gains 952 health from Trygger Lifebloom.
* 21:09'22.438 Brutallus melee swing hits Karador for 9510 Physical.
* 21:09'22.438 Brutallus melee swing hits Karador for 5805 Physical.
* 21:09'23.063 Karador gains 953 health from Trygger Lifebloom.
* 21:09'23.063 Karador gains Earth Shield.
* 21:09'23.563 Brutallus melee swing hits Karador for 7261 Physical. (448 Blocked)
* 21:09'23.563 Brutallus attack was parried by Karador.
* 21:09'24.797 Karador died.

your..pala..healers..suck. seriously.


try5:
* 21:16'14.438 Karador gains Rejuvenation.
* taunt around here *
* 21:16'16.750 Brutallus attack was dodged by Karador.
* 21:16'16.750 Brutallus melee swing hits Karador for 9364 Physical. (448 Blocked)
* 21:16'17.860 Brutallus melee swing hits Karador for 3413 Physical. (689 Blocked)
* 21:16'17.860 Brutallus melee swing hits Karador for 8978 Physical. (689 Blocked)
* 21:16'18.766 Karador died.

you need to announce your taunts. either that or your healers lack something.


try6:
* 21:32'48.110 Airak Greater Heal heals Karador for 6421.
* 21:32'48.594 Brutallus melee swing hits Karador for 5306 Physical.
* 21:32'48.594 Brutallus melee swing hits Karador for 11118 Physical.
* 21:32'48.953 Eander Holy Light heals Karador for 8057. (Critical)
* 21:32'49.438 Yeomin Holy Light heals Karador for 1908.
* 21:32'49.907 Brutallus melee swing hits Karador for 4185 Physical.
* 21:32'49.907 Brutallus melee swing hits Karador for 10618 Physical. (448 Blocked)
* 21:32'50.969 Karador died.

well, you got 4 hits in a row. that a lot of damage. your healers try to come up with holy light V or something like that to keep you alive (*points at that 1900ish holy light*). show your fellow raiders the numbers of damage brutallus deals to you.. and let them calculate how much thi insane downranking helps you to stay alive.

furthermore, your healers seem to have a problem with changing focus on the taunts. i don't know if the problem is lacking communication (announcing taunts, counting down from 5, etc), heavy lag or unhasty healers.. anyway, you have to work on that.
aaaaaand, your holy palas kind of suck in healing you in constant intervals.
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Postby PsiVen » Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:00 am

try5, 9k hits outside of Stomp? That's Recklessness without Demo right there.

Your fury warrior is 0/5 Imp Demo. He must respec 5/5 for this fight if you want the tanks to live. Not having at least 2/5 or 3/5 (can't remember, it's 5am go away) in a raiding spec is retarded because that's the bare minimum without CoR.
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Postby Karador » Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:11 am

was counting down taunts from 3 when the other tank said he had 3 debuffs on vent and i would countdown on vent as well.


Looking over the other tries with double warrior ( both highly geared ) looks like it was not a tank issue for the most part as it was a healing issue because the war / war team had their asses handed to them as well.


*Edit

And yea on Try 5 i think i taunted a second early so that one i will own up to for the screw up.
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Postby Elsie » Wed Sep 10, 2008 7:40 am

Tanking this fight involves learning how to count to/from 3 and hitting a trinket for stomp.

That's pretty much the only significance to tanking brutallus.
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Postby Karador » Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:16 am

I think the reason I was so pissed about it was because I was doing everything in my power to do this perfect since it was the first time they brought me in to tank him. Been in for a couple kills as RET before ( aka how I got my mace from him ) but I wanted to tank this so badly.


Thanks for the input so far guys its giving me alot of ammo to use as for why things went like they did and why I am going to be so focused on getting another shot at this guy.

Any more input is more than welcome.


Thanks again~
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Postby fafhrd » Wed Sep 10, 2008 2:20 pm

More important issue seems to be why is some new scrub mage being allowed to talk shit without getting booted? "undergeared mage" is hardly a high demand class for sunwell.
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Postby Karador » Thu Sep 25, 2008 7:51 pm

Wanted to update this, and send a HUGE thanks out to all the people that took time to look over the WWS from before and give the input that allowed me to point out that it was healer failure and not something on my part.


And with that i am VERY proud to present the following


http://www.newdivide.com/wow/Brutallus.avi <~~ High Quality link

and

http://wowwebstats.com/ekyhu32lt5xbc?s=200874-232389


Big thanks to everyone again for the help and this was pretty much the most intense thing i have ever done in this game to date.
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Postby Karador » Thu Sep 25, 2008 7:53 pm

fafhrd wrote:More important issue seems to be why is some new scrub mage being allowed to talk shit without getting booted? "undergeared mage" is hardly a high demand class for sunwell.



And another update. shit talking mage is now looking for a new guild :)
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Postby Rehlachs- » Fri Sep 26, 2008 12:14 am

np

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there should be a achievement like 'helping another guild killing Brutallus by sharing knowledge'.
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