BS or Eng in WotLK

[Consecrator]

I saw the post regarding the new goggles, however, I keep hearing about the new BS patterns in WOLTK. Can anyone tell me more about what the BS gear is like? What I mean is are they all BOE craftable or should i be ditching engineering to lvl BS before the expantion? Should i just make freinds with a good BS and tell them they look pretty, or are there equally as good drops in dungeons to use.

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[halabar]

I saw the post regarding the new goggles, however, I keep hearing about the new BS patterns in WOLTK. Can anyone tell me more about what the BS gear is like? What I mean is are they all BOE craftable or should i be ditching engineering to lvl BS before the expantion? Should i just make freinds with a good BS and tell them they look pretty, or are there equally as good drops in dungeons to use.

Sofar most BS items are BOE. You can buy them.

Eng will make you money.

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[Consecrator]

I in no way want to drop Eng, I just wanted to make sure I didnt need to be a BS to wear the good gear.

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[InspiredOgre]

JC

[halabar]

I in no way want to drop Eng, I just wanted to make sure I didnt need to be a BS to wear the good gear.

Just wait to see what patterns show up. It's not needed yet.

[Thrornir]

The BoE gear isn't the important thing honestly, but instead what do you get as a profession-only bonus?

Blacksmiths get the ability to add at least three sockets to their gear that are unique to them (bracers, gloves and weapon), another socket to belt that they can sell to others as well (Titanium Belt Buckle), and the rumor that armorcrafters will get a 2nd meta socket.

At the same time, the epic Blacksmith Helmet is close enough to the engineering helmet to be fine until you can upgrade in Naxxramas 10-man.

Engineering gets... guns paladins can't use, injectors that are less useful now that you can't chain-pot in combat, a helmet you can upgrade in the first raid dungeon, doesn't-stack-with-enchants addons to gloves, belt, cloak, and motorcycles.

I'm waiting patiently until a more complete list of engineering items comes out, but I'm seeing nothing that we can use that matches 96 extra stamina from extra sockets alone.

[Consecrator]

Very nice reply, thank you. Now whats this about not chain chugging mana pots?

[kurros]

JC, LW, BS, and Enchanting all offer similiar perks, which can be calculated down to the addition of 48-60~ extra stamina if that is what you are going for, or equivalent numbers of other stats.

The engineering perks are more outlandish and probably better for PvP battlegrounds than PvE tanking.

The tailoring and gathering profession perks are fairly weak, but it's better than before where they didn't have any benefit at all.

Alchemy seems weak for PvE, but if the arena usable potion remains in game it will be very strong for PvP.

[Thrornir]

http://www.wotlkwiki.info/index.php/Alchemy

A more detailed explanation is there, but basically once you use any potion in combat, you are prevented from using another potion until you go out of combat. This prevents chain-chugging Ironshield potions, haste potions for the melee DPS, and mana potions for the casters.

Overall it's probably not a bad change - encounters don't have to be designed around the idea that every melee is hitting a haste pot as soon as the cooldown comes up, and the developers are handing out mana-back abilities and talents like candy so mana won't be a problem. However, it does make injectors less necessary because the amount of healing or mana potions used will go down.

[InspiredOgre]

JC, LW, BS, and Enchanting all offer similiar perks, which can be calculated down to the addition of 48-60~ extra stamina if that is what you are going for, or equivalent numbers of other stats.

The engineering perks are more outlandish and probably better for PvP battlegrounds than PvE tanking.

The tailoring and gathering profession perks are fairly weak, but it's better than before where they didn't have any benefit at all.

Alchemy seems weak for PvE, but if the arena usable potion remains in game it will be very strong for PvP.

Similar Perks!?!?!

http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=44063

ONE..... Minute..... Cooldown1!!!!on1!

Oh, its 10 seconds.... well, still...

In all honesty, it is personal preference>min/max, even with the gathering skills....

As a JC/Miner, I get hella HP.... But thats just my preference.... You may prefer the more varied, and situational, benefits of Eng.

[ulushnar]

The announcement of the new goggles was enough to tip me over from "definately dropping Engi for BS" to "keeping Engineering".

Wasn't just the stats themselves, or the nice Stamina trinket, but the implication that mote clouds will be implemented in WotLK. Having blithely gathered about 5 Primal air whilst doing circuits of Nagrind last night, I've been reminded what a powerful advantage that is.

[degre]

Blacksmiths get the ability to add at least three sockets to their gear that are unique to them (bracers, gloves and weapon)

As far as I know, was said that you were only able to use two of them, as one is common to all BS, whole of the other two one is for armoursmiths and the other for weaponsmiths.

I haven't followed beta info in a while though... might be worth if someone could clarify this. Still, 2 sockets is better then none ^_^

And the rumor that armorcrafters will get a 2nd meta socket.

This is just a rumour. Was presented in a blue post when they were giving examples of what unique features they were thinking of, but nothing related ever came out again, nor was mined from any build. It is also to consider that due to nature of a meta gem, this would result in quite an insane boost.

[Io.Draco]

the question is , does our mote extractor work in northrend or we need to get a new one?

[knaughty]

Eng will make you money.

How?

Never has for me on live.

[InspiredOgre]

Eng will make you money.

How?

Never has for me on live.

Motes, but that is supposing a favorable market, and it assumes using the time to gather that any other gathering skill would use to also.... gather...

Ive dont belive Mote>Herbs>Ore

I think they are all pretty equal.