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[?] New Spell Coefficients

Postby Scotthew » Mon Sep 08, 2008 11:24 am

Sorry if this is posted somewhere, though I did look for a bit. I'm looking for a list of all the new spell coefficients for Patch 3.0 and WotLK. Specifically for Holy Shield, Consecration, Seals/Judgments, and Hammer of the Righteous. I understand most of our spells will be scaling with AP now, but I'd like to know the values so I can make decision about gear once the patch hits.

On a side note, what will be the best tanking weapon for us pre-Sunwell? I'm thinking of trying to get a Talon of Azshara or Syphon of the Nathrezim.



Now that a lot of information has become available, I'll post the known spell coefficients here:

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Avenger's Shield:   680 + 0.07AP + 0.07SP
Holy Shield*:       160 + 0.056AP + 0.09SP
Consecration:       576 + 0.32AP + 0.32SP
Seal of Veng/Cor:   0.16AP + 0.08SP (per stack over 15sec.)
JoV/JoCor:          1 + 0.175AP + 0.28SP (+10% per stack)
Seal of Right:      (0.028AP + 0.055SP) * WS
JoR:                1 + 0.25AP + 0.40SP
SotM/SoB:           0.28WD
JotM/JoB:           0.25WD + 0.20AP + 0.32SP
Hammer of Wrath:    771 + 0.15AP + 0.15SP
Exorcism:           726 + 0.15AP + 0.15SP
Holy Wrath:         845 + 0.07AP + 0.07SP

*Needs further testing.



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Postby Vanifae » Mon Sep 08, 2008 11:26 am

Must not have checked stickies much of this is there: http://www.failsafedesign.com/maintanka ... hp?t=11557
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Postby kurros » Mon Sep 08, 2008 12:17 pm

Vanifae wrote:Must not have checked stickies much of this is there: http://www.failsafedesign.com/maintanka ... hp?t=11557


I think the OP might be referring to the new changes (nerfs) that occurred with the latest beta patch.


Attack Power and Spell Power scaling on all Seals and Judgements other than Command and Blood has been reduced.
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Postby Sabindeus » Mon Sep 08, 2008 2:07 pm

yeah has anyone datamined/reverse engineered this yet? I am very curious.
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Postby Vanifae » Mon Sep 08, 2008 2:12 pm

Ah well then I have no idea.
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Postby Rhî » Tue Sep 09, 2008 1:38 am

Good topic. I'm interested in the new scaling, too.
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Postby InspiredOgre » Tue Sep 09, 2008 1:44 am

Question one, how do we get the info needed to extrapolate these values?

Question two, should we bother, or wait for wowhead to update (how long does that take?)

Question three, if I do this, am I gonna be the only one willing to go whack things for science?
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Postby Sharlos » Tue Sep 09, 2008 1:47 am

InspiredOgre wrote:Question one, how do we get the info needed to extrapolate these values?

Question two, should we bother, or wait for wowhead to update (how long does that take?)

Question three, if I do this, am I gonna be the only one willing to go whack things for science?


TBH, I'd just wait, especially with our 'pass' coming soon.
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Postby InspiredOgre » Tue Sep 09, 2008 1:51 am

Sharlos wrote:
InspiredOgre wrote:Question one, how do we get the info needed to extrapolate these values?

Question two, should we bother, or wait for wowhead to update (how long does that take?)

Question three, if I do this, am I gonna be the only one willing to go whack things for science?


TBH, I'd just wait, especially with our 'pass' coming soon.


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Postby Rhî » Tue Sep 09, 2008 1:52 am

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Postby Sharlos » Tue Sep 09, 2008 1:53 am

InspiredOgre wrote:
Sharlos wrote:
InspiredOgre wrote:Question one, how do we get the info needed to extrapolate these values?

Question two, should we bother, or wait for wowhead to update (how long does that take?)

Question three, if I do this, am I gonna be the only one willing to go whack things for science?


TBH, I'd just wait, especially with our 'pass' coming soon.


Awww... =(

Now what ami gonna do when I get home?


Double check and see if the animations of BoSanct and SoJ have changed at all ;p
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Postby InspiredOgre » Tue Sep 09, 2008 2:03 am

Sharlos wrote:
InspiredOgre wrote:
Sharlos wrote:
InspiredOgre wrote:Question one, how do we get the info needed to extrapolate these values?

Question two, should we bother, or wait for wowhead to update (how long does that take?)

Question three, if I do this, am I gonna be the only one willing to go whack things for science?


TBH, I'd just wait, especially with our 'pass' coming soon.


Awww... =(

Now what ami gonna do when I get home?


Double check and see if the animations of BoSanct and SoJ have changed at all ;p


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Postby InspiredOgre » Tue Sep 09, 2008 2:04 am

Rhî wrote:http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=9679750864&sid=2000#6


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Postby Rhî » Tue Sep 09, 2008 2:09 am

No, that's not me. I have just found that thread. Post 6 says:
The base damage of judgment changed from "36% attack powa + 58% spell powa" to "22% attack powa + 35% spell powa". That is -40% nerf (doing 60% damages then last build)


Unfortunately, there is no information on seal changes. I'm still looking for that.
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Postby MomysLidlMonsta » Tue Sep 09, 2008 7:41 am

I think they dind't change the coefficients (at least not much) but made it mitigated by armor
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