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Some changes to WotLK talents

Postby Taeron » Wed Jul 23, 2008 5:44 am

Don't know if this has been mentioned here:

PoJ now 2 points.
Imp. BoM now increases by 50% (5/5).
Vindication now also 2 points.
Guarded by Light now decreases mana cost for Holy Shield, Av. Shield and Consecration by 15% (before if you dodged).

Check: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/cla ... .html#none

EDIT: Non Improved Holy Shield lists 6 charges. Is that same as before?
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Postby Chevalier » Wed Jul 23, 2008 5:58 am

knew about the last two the first three are new

nice buff to imp. blessing of might (20% to 50%)
Of course, we'll probably be doing Kings so will skip that talent
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Postby Worldie » Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:02 am

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Re: Some changes to WotLK talents

Postby Vanifae » Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:04 am

Taeron wrote:Don't know if this has been mentioned here:

PoJ now 2 points.
Imp. BoM now increases by 50% (5/5).
Vindication now also 2 points.
Guarded by Light now decreases mana cost for Holy Shield, Av. Shield and Consecration by 15% (before if you dodged).

Check: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/cla ... .html#none

EDIT: Non Improved Holy Shield lists 6 charges. Is that same as before?

None of these changes are live yet, could either be A) Old Data in the Taklent Tree or a B) Will be Implemented next push
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Postby Elvidnir » Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:18 am

The movement speed is a nice boost to mobility but by speccing that now we lose 1% spell resist too, which is something we were already short on. Although I think I'd trade 1% spell resist for another talent point to put in Prot. lol

I think it's crap they're streamlining Ret but Prot is a corpusculent monster.
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Postby ulushnar » Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:20 am

Elvidnir wrote:The movement speed is a nice boost to mobility but by speccing that now we lose 1% spell resist too, which is something we were already short on.


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Postby Elvidnir » Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:28 am

Since when is posting an observation considered being a doomsayer?
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Postby ulushnar » Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:37 am

Elvidnir wrote:Since when is posting an observation considered being a doomsayer?


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Postby Mavrix » Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:47 am

The big change to vindication is it now reduces attributes by 20% instead of just 15% (and for 1 less point investment). Possibly huge pvp ramifications. Probably same reason they stripped 1% of spell resistance off POJ.
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Postby PsiVen » Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:55 am

Interesting, I rather liked the 50% reduction but 30% flat is more reliable on bosses.

My guess is that they're not finished streamlining yet.
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Postby guillex » Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:58 am

Ulushnar wrote:
Elvidnir wrote:Since when is posting an observation considered being a doomsayer?


Maybe I just like the song?


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Postby Maelstrom » Wed Jul 23, 2008 8:02 am

I would take these (potential) changes as hints that Blizzard recognises the bloat problems we are seeing in the paladin trees. I'm staying hopeful for more changes :)
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Re: well

Postby Ahms » Wed Jul 23, 2008 8:39 am

Mavrix wrote:The big change to vindication is it now reduces attributes by 20% instead of just 15% (and for 1 less point investment). Possibly huge pvp ramifications. Probably same reason they stripped 1% of spell resistance off POJ.


here's one other big thing about the new vindication

it no longer says 'melee' hits. it just says 'damaging attacks'. so that means any aoe you do, like consecrate and divine storm, will have the chance to put the proc on to groups of baddies?
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Postby Lore » Wed Jul 23, 2008 8:44 am

Spell resist is mostly terrible as a tank anyway.
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Postby Baelor » Wed Jul 23, 2008 9:02 am

Elvidnir wrote:The movement speed is a nice boost to mobility but by speccing that now we lose 1% spell resist too, which is something we were already short on.

It's because they added 3% spell miss to Divine Purpose down the ret tree. Now you can get 5% total spell miss from the ret tree.

Spell resist/miss is mostly for PvP. Tanks who spec into Pursuit of Justice should be pursuing it for the increased mobility.
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