Some changes to WotLK talents

[Taeron]

Don't know if this has been mentioned here:

PoJ now 2 points.
Imp. BoM now increases by 50% (5/5).
Vindication now also 2 points.
Guarded by Light now decreases mana cost for Holy Shield, Av. Shield and Consecration by 15% (before if you dodged).

Check: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/cla ... .html#none

EDIT: Non Improved Holy Shield lists 6 charges. Is that same as before?

[Chevalier]

knew about the last two the first three are new

nice buff to imp. blessing of might (20% to 50%)
Of course, we'll probably be doing Kings so will skip that talent

[Worldie]

Moved to appropriate forum

[Vanifae]

Don't know if this has been mentioned here:

PoJ now 2 points.
Imp. BoM now increases by 50% (5/5).
Vindication now also 2 points.
Guarded by Light now decreases mana cost for Holy Shield, Av. Shield and Consecration by 15% (before if you dodged).

Check: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/cla ... .html#none

EDIT: Non Improved Holy Shield lists 6 charges. Is that same as before?

None of these changes are live yet, could either be A) Old Data in the Taklent Tree or a B) Will be Implemented next push

[Elvidnir]

The movement speed is a nice boost to mobility but by speccing that now we lose 1% spell resist too, which is something we were already short on. Although I think I'd trade 1% spell resist for another talent point to put in Prot. lol

I think it's crap they're streamlining Ret but Prot is a corpusculent monster.

[ulushnar]

The movement speed is a nice boost to mobility but by speccing that now we lose 1% spell resist too, which is something we were already short on.

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It's the end of the world as we know it.
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[Elvidnir]

Since when is posting an observation considered being a doomsayer?

[ulushnar]

Since when is posting an observation considered being a doomsayer?

Maybe I just like the song?

[Mavrix]

The big change to vindication is it now reduces attributes by 20% instead of just 15% (and for 1 less point investment). Possibly huge pvp ramifications. Probably same reason they stripped 1% of spell resistance off POJ.

[PsiVen]

Interesting, I rather liked the 50% reduction but 30% flat is more reliable on bosses.

My guess is that they're not finished streamlining yet.

[guillex]

Since when is posting an observation considered being a doomsayer?

Maybe I just like the song?

It's a really good song!

[Maelstrom]

I would take these (potential) changes as hints that Blizzard recognises the bloat problems we are seeing in the paladin trees. I'm staying hopeful for more changes

[Ahms]

The big change to vindication is it now reduces attributes by 20% instead of just 15% (and for 1 less point investment). Possibly huge pvp ramifications. Probably same reason they stripped 1% of spell resistance off POJ.

here's one other big thing about the new vindication

it no longer says 'melee' hits. it just says 'damaging attacks'. so that means any aoe you do, like consecrate and divine storm, will have the chance to put the proc on to groups of baddies?

[Lore]

Spell resist is mostly terrible as a tank anyway.

[Baelor]

The movement speed is a nice boost to mobility but by speccing that now we lose 1% spell resist too, which is something we were already short on.

It's because they added 3% spell miss to Divine Purpose down the ret tree. Now you can get 5% total spell miss from the ret tree.

Spell resist/miss is mostly for PvP. Tanks who spec into Pursuit of Justice should be pursuing it for the increased mobility.