New WotLK tanking style

[Worldie]

We have abundance of raiding prot and ret paladins on boulderfist nowadays.

WTB T6 ret paladin, pst.

[Sark]

Shield Slap?

Also, refer to my idea of "holy slap" for more single target threat.

every time u say this...i giggle

[lesurk]

I heard a rumor that judgements don't remove seals in wotlk. Anyone know if there's any truth to that? Would help with spell rotations.

[KysenMurrin]

Seems to be the case. Three/four judgements for one seal cast? Very nice.

[Tradyk]

I heard a rumor that judgements don't remove seals in wotlk. Anyone know if there's any truth to that? Would help with spell rotations.

ohmigod.

I think I just had a pallygasm.

[Lore]

I heard a rumor that judgements don't remove seals in wotlk. Anyone know if there's any truth to that? Would help with spell rotations.

http://maintankadin.failsafedesign.com/ ... highlight=

[Morendin]

i'm not sure that imp judgement is worth taking with all those overlapping CD

well...if judgements not eating the seal are true, imp judgement becomes more attractive because we no longer need a GCD to reseal, we can simply judge every 8s...

However, at the same time, it's LESS attractive because judgement will be a FAR smaller component of threat with SoV/SoR weaving, Hammer, and ESPECIALLY Shield of Righteousness, because the Shield scales absurdly fast if you take Shield Spec and the talent for 15% more damage to our Shield skills(Holy Shield, Avenger's Shield, Shield of Righteousness).


*if that's a multiplier, I will shut up forever about our scaling

[Sharlos]

i'm not sure that imp judgement is worth taking with all those overlapping CD

well...if judgements not eating the seal are true, imp judgement becomes more attractive because we no longer need a GCD to reseal, we can simply judge every 8s...

However, at the same time, it's LESS attractive because judgement will be a FAR smaller component of threat with SoV/SoR weaving, Hammer, and ESPECIALLY Shield of Righteousness, because the Shield scales absurdly fast if you take Shield Spec and the talent for 15% more damage to our Shield skills(Holy Shield, Avenger's Shield, Shield of Righteousness).


*if that's a multiplier, I will shut up forever about our scaling

If judgement doesn't consume our seal it would make for a nie macro:

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/cast Judgement
/cast Holy Shield

[Worldie]

If judgement doesn't consume our seal it would make for a nie macro:

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/cast Judgement of Wisdom
/cast Holy Shield

Fixd

[Sharlos]

If judgement doesn't consume our seal it would make for a nie macro:

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/cast Judgement of Wisdom
/cast Holy Shield

Fixd

Do we know how much Judgement of Light heals for?
And if it is effects by Touched by he Light? or Sheath of Light for that matter.

[Teloc]

wow lore posted a link to a thread i made..I'm special now..yay

Also, I think I'm going to be using judgment of wisdom since mana seems to be our biggest issue. Cause if i need health, a few hundred health won't be a drop in the bucket to our new health pools. But then again I've only see ret pallys talking about getting the few hundred healing from it. So maybe it is % based and a prot pally will get more healing out of it.

[Sharlos]

wow lore posted a link to a thread i made..I'm special now..yay

Also, I think I'm going to be using judgment of wisdom since mana seems to be our biggest issue. Cause if i need health, a few hundred health won't be a drop in the bucket to our new health pools. But then again I've only see ret pallys talking about getting the few hundred healing from it. So maybe it is % based and a prot pally will get more healing out of it.

I's probabbly be using wisdom as well. Will be nice for grinding.

[Sarima]

I've seen a lot of people arguing to keep Holy Shield up (nearly) all the time, since it will provide nice mitigation when we factor in the boost to block value we'll likely get. That seems to me like those people are thinking they will be what we now call uncrushable with Holy Shield up.
However, in regards of the homogenisation of tanking gear, I think it's rather safe to assume that we will get next to 0 Shield Block Rating on tanking items, since DK's will not be able to use it. So I'm wondering if the magic 102.4% will be able to be reached without extra block rating from gear and what this would mean for our skill rotation.

[Sharlos]

I've seen a lot of people arguing to keep Holy Shield up (nearly) all the time, since it will provide nice mitigation when we factor in the boost to block value we'll likely get. That seems to me like those people are thinking they will be what we now call uncrushable with Holy Shield up.
However, in regards of the homogenisation of tanking gear, I think it's rather safe to assume that we will get next to 0 Shield Block Rating on tanking items, since DK's will not be able to use it. So I'm wondering if the magic 102.4% will be able to be reached without extra block rating from gear and what this would mean for our skill rotation.

Either we can get 'uncrushable' or we can't and redoubt becomes useful again, meaning between us and warriors we will block the most.

[Alceste]

I've heard rumor that the damage-dealing seals will not be removed when you judge them. You'll only need to reapply the same seal when its 30s duration runs down, judging all the while.