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Postby balrogg » Thu Jul 10, 2008 12:14 pm

Dorvan wrote:
balrogg wrote:however, the flaw is not whether or not they are equal, rather that .333~ is just the best estimate we can give for 1/3 with our number system, thus we have to accept that the above is true since we have no way to "show" the difference.


No, it's not merely a best estimate (though any finite truncation of it is merely an estimate). As Arcand said, you're not giving infinity enough credit :P

(mods, feel free to shoot me now >.<)


im giving it credit to say that .9~ should be accepted to equal 1. but, the point is its a repeating decimal for a reason, and it is indeed getting infinitely closer to 1. but if it was mathemcatically equivalent, why would we have a need to display numbers with repeating decimals? how would you define limits that never reach certain values? inifinite is an explanation for something we cannot otherwise express, ie you cant actually write out .9~.

im not arguing that .9~ != 1, its just a conflict in how we choose to display/show numbers.

ok im done

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Postby Arcand » Thu Jul 10, 2008 12:28 pm

balrogg wrote:but if it was mathemcatically equivalent, why would we have a need to display numbers with repeating decimals?


As a teaching tool? You can have people work out some finite sums and point out how their difference from the limit is shrinking exponentially.
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Postby Dorvan » Thu Jul 10, 2008 12:56 pm

Arcand wrote:
balrogg wrote:but if it was mathemcatically equivalent, why would we have a need to display numbers with repeating decimals?


As a teaching tool? You can have people work out some finite sums and point out how their difference from the limit is shrinking exponentially.


Also, displaying things as fractions or mixed numbers can be rather inconvenient at times....it's nice to have a decimal notation for it that's still exact.
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Postby Kelaan » Thu Jul 10, 2008 12:56 pm

Novariety wrote:On the figurine both my pallies have it but took about 5-6 runs on each to see it drop. My draenai never got her SV cloak which I gave up on ever dropping about 10 runs after hitting exalted.


I run normal SH pretty often, when I can't find a pug for a heroic or whatnot; I'm not sure how many i've run -- pretty sure less than 20 -- but no trinket. Lots of people introduced to paladin tanking, though, lol. :D
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Postby Arcand » Thu Jul 10, 2008 1:03 pm

People might not realize that you can get seven badges out of a hSH run. ^_~
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Postby Skwigelf » Thu Jul 10, 2008 1:33 pm

0.333~ is simply the numerical representation of 1/3.

0.333~ + 0.333~ + 0.333~ does in fact = 1 since 0.333~ is 1/3. Not "around" 1/3, or "close enough" to 1/3. It IS 1/3.
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Postby uke » Thu Jul 10, 2008 1:33 pm

Arcand wrote:
So what happens when you divide by zero?


You create Chuck Norris.


You cannot create Chuck Norris. Rather Chuck Norris creates whatever he wants.

On that note, only Chuck can divide by zero and succeed. Anyone else attempting such a feat often results in an implosion of the universe.
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Postby Arcand » Thu Jul 10, 2008 1:53 pm

uke wrote:You cannot create Chuck Norris. Rather Chuck Norris creates whatever he wants.


I knew I wanted a Chuck reference and that weak-ass thing was the first thing I came up with. I hit Post, then went back to try and come up with something wittier but there had already been a reply to the post.

I didn't want an 'edited' note, since any sign of uncertainty or weakness is unworthy of a post about Chuck Norris.
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Postby Baelor » Thu Jul 10, 2008 1:58 pm

Go to Google, type "find chuck norris" and select "I'm Feeling Lucky."
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Postby guillex » Thu Jul 10, 2008 3:51 pm

Baelor wrote:Go to Google, type "find chuck norris" and select "I'm Feeling Lucky."


Google won't search for Chuck Norris because it knows you don't find Chuck Norris, he finds you.
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Postby Khisvir » Thu Jul 10, 2008 4:14 pm

Surprised no one brought up the 50/50/90 rule.


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Postby Aranbenjo » Fri Jul 11, 2008 3:06 am

i'm after the barbed choker from the maiden since sept 2007
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Postby Bere » Fri Jul 11, 2008 4:02 am

Got my Barbed Choker and Lucky Pocketwatch in the last two Kara runs. Been running since February and only now saw them drop.
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Postby Io.Draco » Fri Jul 11, 2008 4:58 am

URGH , figurine of the colosus , I ran that fucking place 10 times every single day for 3 weeks , IT NEVER droped till the last run I went there , and then the motherfucking holy paladin roled , and won

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Postby Worldie » Fri Jul 11, 2008 5:07 am

Be positive, that paladin now can respec prot since he's now uncrushable, one more on the righteous way!


I got the figurine looong time ago, while i was zerging normal SH to get revered->exhalted in 1 evening before we started doing kael.
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