Wowhead item weighting

[Robbert]

So Wowhead has added a new 'item weighting' feature and I'm looking over how the're viewing prot pally itemization. They're using relative weighting values to generate item scores. Here are the values they're currently using;

Defense Rating = 100
Stamina = 98
Dodge Rating = 94
Parry Rating = 88
Agility = 81
Block Rating = 63
Spell Damage = 38
Expertise = 25
Intellect = 25
Block Value = 25
Spell Hit = 19
Armor = 8

Parry, Agility, and Intellect seem a bit high to me while Armor seems a bit low. It also seems like threat stats are being undervalued with these weights. I'm thinking this is looking at a very generic gear set.

Has anyone else looked this over yet?

Edit: hoping this direct link works showing the scores for plate breastplates.

http://www.wowhead.com/?items=4.4&filter=sl=5;ub=2;preset=2.pve.prot;gm=4

[Levantine]

Can't you make your own weights?

On inspection, it seems you can make your own weights. Nothing to see here folks.

[Robbert]

Can't you make your own weights?

Yup...those were the default 'prot pally' weights.

[Levantine]

Can't you make your own weights?

Yup...those were the default 'prot pally' weights.

So? Just because those are the defaults doesn't mean you have to use them. I know no one here would. They're terrible.

[Invisusira]

In before "I think you're missing the point."

oh wait

[Fridmarr]

I did look at it. Armor is probably near where it should be, 1 armor is worth almost nothing. What makes it work out ok is that you have can easily have a couple hundred difference in armor value between 2 pieces of gear. So even though it has a low weight, it's a big number that the weight is being applied to.

By default I think it does a reasonable job, but you can tweak the numbers to your needs, which is excellent.

[Levantine]

*shrug*

I didn't think there was much of a point to miss. Someone should fill me in.

[jere]

Bear in mind those weightings also take into consideration 'quantity' of stats as well as quality. AC is low because you typically have hundreds to thousands of it on gear, while stamina is typically in the tens.

I used the default params and did a search for helms using their weightings. Theses are the results:

http://www.wowhead.com/?items=4&filter= ... .prot;gm=3

[Dorvan]

On the whole, that weight set looks decent: it correctly pans the 2.4 pally badge chest for example. However, it's still no substitute for actually knowing what you're lacking in your gear: whether stamina, avoidance, or threat.

[Eanin]

They're interesting. As far as a "balanced" set goes, that's about how I'd weight them, though I'd probably put magic damage a little higher.

There are a couple omissions. +hit isn't there at all. +hit isn't great for us, but it's certainly better than zero. Armor also seems high. Guilded Thorium Cloak higher than Pepe's? I think not.

I think the main issue is that, once you reach a certain point, you really stop using "balanced" sets at all. Every fight has its own requirements. I have a "tank" set, an "aoe" set, a "threat" set, an "Azlagor adds" (+5% stun resist hat and my Medallion of Karabor) set etc...

[Mishdorf]

Yeah my only issue with this is that it does seem to weigh armour a tad too high and spell damage a bit too low.

For an automated process it does do a fine job of giving a new tank a good idea of what to aim at.

Still, it pays to understand uncritable/uncrushable and effective hitpoints.