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Postby Teckbot » Tue Apr 01, 2008 3:19 am

Shelendil wrote:Well, someone has done it.

http://wowwebstats.com/ec3al5je56huc?s=11110-11474


I would really like to know:
A) was this done on the live realms?
B) what guild is this, since they apparently already killed Felmyst?
C) why would they hide their names?

In any case, here's our WWS parse from our kill tonight:
http://wowwebstats.com/eph1xqf1keicc?s=1132-1500&m

I've logged out in the gear that I was in when I tanked him.
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It should be noted that I hit the buff-cap (like in Illidan) during some attempts and had my Flask and other buffs get pushed off, resulting in my death from a Stomp+MH+OH combo. I am not amused.
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Postby Morganim » Tue Apr 01, 2008 3:37 am

Teckbot wrote:
Shelendil wrote:Well, someone has done it.

http://wowwebstats.com/ec3al5je56huc?s=11110-11474


I would really like to know:
A) was this done on the live realms?
B) what guild is this, since they apparently already killed Felmyst?
C) why would they hide their names?

In any case, here's our WWS parse from our kill tonight:
http://wowwebstats.com/eph1xqf1keicc?s=1132-1500&m

I've logged out in the gear that I was in when I tanked him.
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-shee ... &n=Teckbot

It should be noted that I hit the buff-cap (like in Illidan) during some attempts and had my Flask and other buffs get pushed off, resulting in my death from a Stomp+MH+OH combo. I am not amused.


Thanks a lot for that

i ahve been worried lately that i wouldnt be able to tank him but if you managed with your gear i should be able to do with mine :D
Only difference in our gear atm is

bracers > i have akama ones
Shadowmoon insignia > cant get the bloody thing to drop
neck > nothing will drop again lol

this is awesome as our feral druid is still in mostly t5 and our off tank warrior has HORRIBLE gear
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Postby Teckbot » Tue Apr 01, 2008 1:48 pm

One of our warlocks just put of a video of the fight, for what it's worth:

http://files.filefront.com/Lunacy+vs+Br ... einfo.html
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Postby Gerilith » Tue Apr 01, 2008 2:00 pm

I tanked him once until Enrage and it is doable. But I don't know if it makes much sense...

(Yeah, first evening of tries and we gimped a lot)
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Postby Arianne » Tue Apr 01, 2008 2:08 pm

Has anyone tried stacking a block value set with the 10% block value metagem for brutallus? Is that not feasible (I haven't spent much time thinking about the fight) because of something Brutallus does?
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Postby Gerilith » Tue Apr 01, 2008 2:10 pm

Well...Blockvaluegear as long as it isn't even guaranteed you will block each hit (with hits 8k+!)? I don't know. Sunwell Radiance makes it useless imho.
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Postby Arianne » Tue Apr 01, 2008 2:51 pm

Sunwell radiance only affects dodge. You can stack SBR to some degree dropping dodge and picking up parry (though obviously that gear set would be complicated). It seems like he hits too fast for this approach though based on Teckbot's WWS (~15 hits every 10 seconds) and too variably. It seems rather odd that he has such a high attack damage range (1.1k to 8.1k just in the first scan of the log).
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Postby Morganim » Tue Apr 01, 2008 8:19 pm

Arianne wrote:Sunwell radiance only affects dodge. You can stack SBR to some degree dropping dodge and picking up parry (though obviously that gear set would be complicated). It seems like he hits too fast for this approach though based on Teckbot's WWS (~15 hits every 10 seconds) and too variably. It seems rather odd that he has such a high attack damage range (1.1k to 8.1k just in the first scan of the log).


I think what ger meant is that with +5% hit and -20% dodge you need another 25% to always get a blocked hit, most tankadins i know with the BV libram run at about 105%-110%. In sunwell if we wanted to block every hit we need 127.4% otherwise we are gonna get full unblocked hits coming in
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Postby Gerilith » Wed Apr 02, 2008 12:11 am

Morganim wrote:
Arianne wrote:Sunwell radiance only affects dodge. You can stack SBR to some degree dropping dodge and picking up parry (though obviously that gear set would be complicated). It seems like he hits too fast for this approach though based on Teckbot's WWS (~15 hits every 10 seconds) and too variably. It seems rather odd that he has such a high attack damage range (1.1k to 8.1k just in the first scan of the log).


I think what ger meant is that with +5% hit and -20% dodge you need another 25% to always get a blocked hit, most tankadins i know with the BV libram run at about 105%-110%. In sunwell if we wanted to block every hit we need 127.4% otherwise we are gonna get full unblocked hits coming in

Yep. 5% less miss, 20% less Dodge. And it doesn't really matter what is affected. Your avoidance is lowered by 25% and you would have to compensate this. It is one attack table and it is simply not possible to be "crushing immune" without losing so much health that an instagib is very likely.
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Postby Splug » Wed Apr 02, 2008 8:40 am

Part of the reason for Brutallus' huge damage range is Stomp, and the other portion is his dual-wielding. His offhand/mainhand speeds are the same, so every attack is a sychronized double-hit, and will look something like (Big hit, little hit). Normally, it will be something like 6k, 3k, for an effective hit of 9k. Then stomp lands and the damage increases to 10k, 5k, for an effective hit of 15k.

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EDIT: Crush, Stomp, Smash... we orcs group all these terms into the same category and use them interchangably.
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Postby Neuron » Wed Apr 02, 2008 9:14 am

Splug wrote:Then crush lands and the damage increases to 10k, 5k, for an effective hit of 15k.


You mean stomp, right?
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Postby fiorina » Wed Apr 02, 2008 9:22 am

yes, he means stomp :)
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Postby Splug » Wed Apr 02, 2008 9:50 am

Er, yes, I do. I'll just edit my post. Brutallus can't crush... which is good, because shield block is long gone before the recast thanks to the Sunwell boss buff, and holy shield may not guarentee active uncrushability for the same reason.

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Postby Fuseflower » Wed Apr 02, 2008 11:04 am

Gerilith wrote:I tanked him once until Enrage and it is doable. But I don't know if it makes much sense...

(Yeah, first evening of tries and we gimped a lot)


Why does it not make sense?
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Postby Gerilith » Wed Apr 02, 2008 11:34 am

Because my mitigation is the lowest one of all classes.
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