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Postby Duzzit » Sun Mar 09, 2008 5:47 pm

Ok, me and my warrior GM are having a threat contest and I want to destroy him on void reaver, do you folks think that 420 ish spell dmg will hold him for at least 50% of the fight? (I also have the co-operation of the hunters to MD me)
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Postby NarfJones » Sun Mar 09, 2008 6:00 pm

Don't waste the misdirects just for a pissing contest. They can sometime make or break a fight.

I do this fight in 500 SD gear, and hold him through 3-4 knockbacks.
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Postby Caelia » Sun Mar 09, 2008 6:00 pm

that buffed or unbuffed? As long as you start you should be good
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Postby Duzzit » Sun Mar 09, 2008 6:08 pm

Caelia wrote:that buffed or unbuffed? As long as you start you should be good


thats buffed, could push it higher if i wanted but I'd love avoidance.
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Postby Caelia » Sun Mar 09, 2008 6:14 pm

think i held him 97% with that much or close to it
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Postby mazater » Mon Mar 10, 2008 12:37 am

No matter how much spelldamage you have, you will lose aggro if the knockback hits you. :roll:
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Postby NarfJones » Mon Mar 10, 2008 12:44 am

Mazater wrote:No matter how much spelldamage you have, you will lose aggro if the knockback hits you. :roll:


untrue. It removes 25% of your total threat. every time.
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Postby mazater » Mon Mar 10, 2008 12:47 am

NarfJones wrote:
Mazater wrote:No matter how much spelldamage you have, you will lose aggro if the knockback hits you. :roll:


untrue. It removes 25% of your total threat. every time.

Well, not like you can get 25% more threat on Void reaver than the next one, if you can something is wrong.
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Postby NarfJones » Mon Mar 10, 2008 1:01 am

Mazater wrote:
NarfJones wrote:
Mazater wrote:No matter how much spelldamage you have, you will lose aggro if the knockback hits you. :roll:


untrue. It removes 25% of your total threat. every time.

Well, not like you can get 25% more threat on Void reaver than the next one, if you can something is wrong.


Untrue. If it were true you wouldn't be able to hold him for more than 15-20% and I've have personally held him 50-75% He has stayed on me through 4-5 knockbacks. Trust me, it's possible.
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Postby Moraus » Mon Mar 10, 2008 4:33 am

think the longest ive held him is 70%

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Postby Aleriya » Mon Mar 10, 2008 6:16 pm

Early knockbacks remove less threat than later knockbacks - that's why it's possible to tank VR for so long at the beginning. It's much, much harder to tank him all the way through ;)

Example: At the first knockback, if you've generated 50k threat, you'll lose 12.5k threat from getting hit with the knockback. Later on, if you're at 400k threat, you'll lose a whopping 100k threat every time the knockback hits you. At the beginning you can easily make up for 12.5k threat but if you keep taking 100k losses, it's over.

btw VR hits like a wimp. I wouldn't worry about block rating or block value if you want to beat the warrior for threat. Crushing blows = more mana! (assuming this is farm content heh ^_^) Dodge and parry help avoid knockbacks so those are good. If you have a dodge trinket, pop it right before a knockback :)

Make sure you've got a shadow priest in the raid for misery, grab some spell damage food and a flask of blinding light, and you're set to go.
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