Hermes: The great messenger of your raid's cooldowns!

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Re: Hermes: The great messenger of your raid's cooldowns!

Postby Treck » Mon Dec 19, 2011 1:52 pm

Hmm, i dont know, mine is working atleast for 5mans cross realm.
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Re: Hermes: The great messenger of your raid's cooldowns!

Postby Gabe » Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:54 am

Just started using this and well, needless to say it's good.

I'm having one issue though. Even though I have "Hide Self" selected, I can still see my CDs on the list, namely my Hand of Sacrifice. It worked fine at the start but now I can't get rid of myself and seeing as I can't Sac myself and the list of potential Sac sources is already long, it's proving to be excess clutter. Any idea on how to fix this?
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Re: Hermes: The great messenger of your raid's cooldowns!

Postby Treck » Wed Dec 28, 2011 2:50 pm

Noticed it myself now aswell.
It has major problems with the LFR, for whatever reason.
5mans cross realm works fine, but something about the LFR is making it annoying.
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Re: Hermes: The great messenger of your raid's cooldowns!

Postby fuzzygeek » Wed Dec 28, 2011 3:53 pm

I haven't had a chance to hammer on this, as far a LFR goes (debugging in LFR is likely to be tedious and time consuming). I'm not certain it's that high a priority anyway, given coordinating CDs in LFR is not exactly necessary ><

As far as filtering self, I'll take a look next chance I get.
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Re: Hermes: The great messenger of your raid's cooldowns!

Postby Gabe » Fri Dec 30, 2011 7:51 am

The issue of it still showing my CDs with Hide Self selected has disappeared this week even though I haven't touched the settings since. Will have to see if it crops up again.
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Re: Hermes: The great messenger of your raid's cooldowns!

Postby Fenrìr » Sat Mar 24, 2012 3:30 pm

Has this been taken over or still a hit / miss thing?
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Re: Hermes: The great messenger of your raid's cooldowns!

Postby inthedrops » Thu May 03, 2012 2:40 pm

Hi All,

Original author here. I haven't played WoW since I quit. But was talking to some old guild mates of mine recently and they mentioned they still use Hermes. I was surprised it still works considering I didn't have any strong takers for someone to maintain it.

I am not surprised that LFR or ANY cross realm type communication doesn't work. That's a big reason I never got Hermes working for PvP either (same solution would likely solve all those problems). Basically, it was very difficult to test at the time so I didn't try to implement it.

Fuzzy, or whoever wants to take it over please do if you haven't already. I marked the project as abandoned on curse a while ago.

I still feel terrible about stopping support but I don't feel terrible about quitting wow :)

I believe I still get PM's so if you need my attention fire one off. Ciao
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Re: Hermes: The great messenger of your raid's cooldowns!

Postby Vladogor » Sat Sep 01, 2012 6:56 am

Look like it is not working in 5.0.4... :(

Is there an alternative anybody can recommend?
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Re: Hermes: The great messenger of your raid's cooldowns!

Postby daishan » Sat Sep 01, 2012 7:29 am

Vladogor wrote:Look like it is not working in 5.0.4... :(

Is there an alternative anybody can recommend?


Damn was afraid that Mists would brake it /cry
I've not seen anything else that can replace it yet.
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Re: Hermes: The great messenger of your raid's cooldowns!

Postby fuzzygeek » Sat Sep 01, 2012 9:41 am

I'll take a look and see if it's relatively easily fixable; they removed some functions and replaced them with differently named functions.
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Re: Hermes: The great messenger of your raid's cooldowns!

Postby daishan » Sat Sep 01, 2012 9:49 am

GL hope it's an easy fix and thx for having a look at it.
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Re: Hermes: The great messenger of your raid's cooldowns!

Postby fuzzygeek » Sat Sep 01, 2012 9:54 am

Looking at it now, and it's not that straightforward; I'll give it a couple hours or see if it's just beyond my ken.
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Re: Hermes: The great messenger of your raid's cooldowns!

Postby fuzzygeek » Sat Sep 01, 2012 10:12 am

Hmm with the new talent system Talents.lua would need to be completely re-designed and re-written. Drops' code is really clean and he's got provisions for internally re-building the spell database, but it would require some significant reconstruction to get this working again as he's built it :(

I'm going to poke around and see if I can simplify so its base functionality will work, and think about the auto-populate later. It might be feasible to read off the SpellMonitorDefaults.lua, but what with weird CDs I'm not sure how effective it's going to be.

Like, I don't even know how to handle Unbreakable Spirit.

I only tinker around with LUA enough to get things to work and do simple string parsing; I think updating Hermes to 5.0 is beyond what I can do. Sorry :(
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Re: Hermes: The great messenger of your raid's cooldowns!

Postby Vladogor » Sat Sep 01, 2012 1:08 pm

For God's sake, somebody please update this addon!!!
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Re: Hermes: The great messenger of your raid's cooldowns!

Postby daishan » Sun Sep 02, 2012 3:34 am

Thx for trying fuzzy, you kept it going for a lot of Cata.
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Re: Hermes: The great messenger of your raid's cooldowns!

Postby _Chloe » Tue Sep 04, 2012 6:44 am

I'll take a look at it between interviews.
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Re: Hermes: The great messenger of your raid's cooldowns!

Postby Vladogor » Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:56 am

If I, as raid leader were to choose just one addon, I would pick Hermes. It is just indispensable.

Chloe, it would be really great if you could revive it for MoP. I keep my fingers crossed and am really hoping for good news!
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Re: Hermes: The great messenger of your raid's cooldowns!

Postby _Chloe » Fri Sep 07, 2012 12:20 am

Looking through, it's going to take a lot of work to get it updated due to all the talent and spell changes alone. The spell detection looks stable enough and so does the talent polling as long as that lib gets updated. I won't have the time to put into this to update it. If someone wants to put together the spell list and spell id's, it will be a vital first step in the right direction to getting this back up and running.
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Re: Hermes: The great messenger of your raid's cooldowns!

Postby NinJOu » Fri Sep 07, 2012 6:42 am

Tell us what do you need, this addon is a real must, we gotta keep it working :)
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Re: Hermes: The great messenger of your raid's cooldowns!

Postby fuzzygeek » Fri Sep 07, 2012 2:48 pm

A consolidated list of spell IDs would be useful.

E.g., Ardent Defender has Spell ID 31850 -- http://www.wowhead.com/spell=31850

Also talents which affect CDs would probably be helpful, such as Unbreakable Spirit (spell ID 114154 http://www.wowhead.com/spell=114154 )
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Re: Hermes: The great messenger of your raid's cooldowns!

Postby daishan » Fri Sep 07, 2012 2:57 pm

fuzzygeek wrote:Ardent Defender has Spell ID 31850 -- http://www.wowhead.com/spell=31850


If that's the format you want all the spells in, I should have some time later in the weekend to start on a list.
Just say if you want more info per spell than the Name, Spell ID, and wowhead link.
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Re: Hermes: The great messenger of your raid's cooldowns!

Postby fuzzygeek » Fri Sep 07, 2012 6:39 pm

Having that data available would be very helpful. I could probably lobotomize out the advanced talent tree scanning to get the mod to work for straight CD tracking.

Again, the problem is stuff that dynamically reduces CDs; I don't know how widespread these are, tbqh, or if US is fairly unique.
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Re: Hermes: The great messenger of your raid's cooldowns!

Postby NinJOu » Fri Sep 07, 2012 6:45 pm

I really think US is the only one working like this.
I don't think it will be possible to have the exact CD for spells affected by this talent unless every paladin activates hermes ?

While I was reviewing the source code, it seems that this addon has a learning procedure for spell CDs ? Do you think this one is still running ?

I'm gonna work on getting an accurate list of spellId starting tomorrow.
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Re: Hermes: The great messenger of your raid's cooldowns!

Postby fuzzygeek » Fri Sep 07, 2012 11:53 pm

It does have a learning procedure, but it's tied heavily into the talent spec processor -- which is completely different now. Re-building that is significant enough such that I don't think I could do it, and Chloe hasn't the time to devote to it.

Again, it might be possible to trim out the talent-related code and work around it. I'll take a deeper look at it this weekend; I don't know how much time Chloe will have to devote to this, but I'd certainly defer :]
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Re: Hermes: The great messenger of your raid's cooldowns!

Postby _Chloe » Mon Sep 10, 2012 1:12 am

A quick list of spell names and ID's would be very helpful, especially separated by class. I was thinking of stripping the talent lib out, but I don't know how embedded they are with each other. Right now I'm working on a new job and raiding full-time coming up. I don't have much time other than a few hours or so a week to put this together until things settle down. I'll be glad to help out where I can.
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