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Re: Icecrown Radiance

Postby Snake-Aes » Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:13 pm

Well... sometimes being obnoxious works.

Just for giggles, they should recolor the Sunwell Radiance icon and tag it the icecrown version.

Here, Blue is more aesthetically pleasing:
ICECROWN RADIANCE DOES NOT CHANGE HOW WE GEAR. IT DIDN'T DO SO IN SUNWELL AND WON'T DO SO IN ICECROWN.
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Re: Icecrown Radiance

Postby Fridmarr » Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:19 pm

This is partially why they are doing away with defense next go round. If you get defense up to the uncritable area, which they need to provide on gear, then you have a good chunk of avoidance just from that. Add to that, they direct avoidance stats on gear which is a good concept, and soon you are avoiding 65% the hits. I kind of like the idea they've been floating around about increasing tank health and decreasing avoidance, healing, and incoming damage for the next expansion. Although, it emphasizes mitigation more than now, requiring balance to be tighter on that end than it is now. Right now, you can offset some mitigation with big health pools to get the same survivability.

However, this is only a piece of what needs to be done, and Sunwell (pre nerf) wasn't without huge burst damage, and I expect that this will still exist in IC. I'd be amazed if no boss could 2-3 hit you, unless they roll a ton of Ilevel to stamina, so I expect this won't solve a good portion of the problem that they don't like with the current damage, health, and healing levels. All the heal spam and proactive CD usage will still be there.
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Re: Icecrown Radiance

Postby Fridmarr » Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:19 pm

There is no need for obnoxiousness here.
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Re: Icecrown Radiance

Postby Snake-Aes » Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:22 pm

Fridmarr wrote:There is no need for obnoxiousness here.

Can I keep the normalsized eyeburning blue one though? Please? Pretty please?
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Re: Icecrown Radiance

Postby Sabindeus » Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:23 pm

Snake-Aes wrote:
Fridmarr wrote:There is no need for obnoxiousness here.

Can I keep the normalsized eyeburning blue one though? Please? Pretty please?


god no, get rid of that shit
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Re: Icecrown Radiance

Postby halabar » Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:23 pm

So lemme ask this.. how would we edit the 102.4% macro to show the removal of 20% dodge?
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Re: Icecrown Radiance

Postby rathe » Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:26 pm

I lol-ed but now I have a headache from reading that.

Edit: ah, you fixed it....

I agree that getting rid of defense will probably help in the future, but I'm curious why they just didn't scale avoidance appropriately in LK knowing what happened in BC. If they really have an addiction to just handing out avoidance what's to stop them scaling badly in the next set of tiers?
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Re: Icecrown Radiance

Postby Snake-Aes » Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:26 pm

Sabindeus wrote:
Snake-Aes wrote:
Fridmarr wrote:There is no need for obnoxiousness here.

Can I keep the normalsized eyeburning blue one though? Please? Pretty please?


god no, get rid of that shit

You're no fun :/

The macro will just need a -20 on the final number calculation, Hal... Tanks with less than 20% dodge don't deserve to tank icecrown.
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Re: Icecrown Radiance

Postby Arkesh » Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:28 pm

Short of taking 20% mentally?

Don't think we could, the macro takes up most of the 255 char limit iirc. Just minus it off, it's not going to affect previous raids. We're not going to be able to hit 102.4% anyway in ICC (unless they implement some insane stats on items), so it doesn't really matter.
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Re: Icecrown Radiance

Postby honorshammer » Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:31 pm

•Item - Paladin T10 Protection 4P Bonus - When you activate Divine Plea, you gain 12% dodge for 10 sec.


Dear Blizzard,

Can we get a 4pc bonus now since IR will...you know...totally take ours away?
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Re: Icecrown Radiance

Postby Snake-Aes » Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:34 pm

honorshammer wrote:
•Item - Paladin T10 Protection 4P Bonus - When you activate Divine Plea, you gain 12% dodge for 10 sec.


Dear Blizzard,

Can we get a 4pc bonus now since IR will...you know...totally take ours away?

well...a 12% dodge bonus is very noticeable for a damage intake designed around 40% avoidance. That's more because of the size of the hit than the avoidance proper tho...
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Re: Icecrown Radiance

Postby Fridmarr » Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:34 pm

honorshammer wrote:
•Item - Paladin T10 Protection 4P Bonus - When you activate Divine Plea, you gain 12% dodge for 10 sec.


Dear Blizzard,

Can we get a 4pc bonus now since IR will...you know...totally take ours away?
As long as you have more than 20% dodge pre IR, you'd still get the full benefit of this bonus, yes?
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Re: Icecrown Radiance

Postby Flex » Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:35 pm

honorshammer wrote:
•Item - Paladin T10 Protection 4P Bonus - When you activate Divine Plea, you gain 12% dodge for 10 sec.


Dear Blizzard,

Can we get a 4pc bonus now since IR will...you know...totally take ours away?


I have 27% dodge, I'll have 7% dodge in ICC. I activate my 4 piece, I will have 19% dodge.
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Re: Icecrown Radiance

Postby Nikachelle » Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:39 pm

T10 bonus... I'm coming for ya!
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Re: Icecrown Radiance

Postby Njall » Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:40 pm

Nikachelle wrote:T10 bonus... I'm coming for ya!


I guess the lay hands on self nerf didn't happen afterall...

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