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armor

Postby cougbait » Sun Aug 02, 2009 2:02 pm

trying to figure out how they work together

my armor= 28296 which says it reduces physical damage by 65.01%
my block value = 1265

so if i get hit for 10k unblocked it will actually be 4226.3001 ?
math for that is 10k- (10,000x 0.6501)= 4226.3001

but if i block the hit does the block happen before the armor or armor 1st?

block 1st i see 10k- 1265= 8735 -(8735x 0.6501)= 3056.3765

but if armor is 1st then its back to 10k- (10,000 x 0.6501)=4226.3001- 1265= 2961.3001

and as you can see you get 2 different number any one know for sure
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Re: armor and block

Postby majiben » Sun Aug 02, 2009 8:40 pm

After. Very few things increase or decrease damage before armor and other percentage damage modifiers. Some of examples of these unusual prearmor static increases/decreases are the TBC BoSanc (not the WotLK one) and other abilities similar like http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=20587. You're most likely to encounter such abilities in the form of mobs getting a stacking buff increasing damage done by X or a debuff increasing your damage taken by Y but these were more common in TBC and Vanilla.
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Re: armor and block

Postby cougbait » Mon Aug 03, 2009 5:20 am

so in a round about way you are saying its the armor 1st then block which is a good thing as that is the one with the lower damage to us :)

and i am also gonna assume (even thu i know what that makes me) that the effect from our SS will also happen after armor but should not matter if before or after the block as it is additive

the whole reason i was asking this is i have both the FL rings (10 and 25) as well as the block one from XT25, with this math i will be sticking to both the FL for a long time.
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Re: armor

Postby cougbait » Mon Aug 10, 2009 1:02 pm

got the new 5man trinket... when it procs im at 70% damage reduction

i remember readin somewhere that armor has a "cap" to where it just isnt useful any more

is there such a %, as both my rings have armor and also my neck/legs have the armor too, pretty much trying to figure out if armor can be swaped out for more useful stats
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Re: armor

Postby Isetnefret » Mon Aug 10, 2009 1:06 pm

The point at which armor no longer becomes useful is much higher than I think paladins would typically see.

I believe it's around 35-40k armor, but that could be wrong.
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Re: armor

Postby Jasari » Mon Aug 10, 2009 1:07 pm

cougbait wrote:got the new 5man trinket... when it procs im at 70% damage reduction

i remember readin somewhere that armor has a "cap" to where it just isnt useful any more

is there such a %, as both my rings have armor and also my neck/legs have the armor too, pretty much trying to figure out if armor can be swaped out for more useful stats


75% DR is the cap. But remember that the % mitigation shown on your character page is based on a level 80 attacker - it will be less mitigation against an level 83 raid boss.

Assuming wowwiki is correct, the armor cap against a raid boss is 49,905
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Re: armor

Postby Isetnefret » Mon Aug 10, 2009 1:07 pm

Jasari wrote:Assuming wowwiki is correct, the armor cap against a raid boss is 49,905



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